Giving drums PUNCH!!!

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This probably belongs in the newbie section, but it has to do with drums. How do you give drums their punch?

I have an old dynamic mic and I just put it in front of the drums, I plug it right in to the recorder...and that's it.
 
well..... you could start off by adding some close mics. short of that, not sure.
 
It's all about the signal path and mixing.

The right mics on the right drums in the right places. You need a good kick mic, good snare and tom mics and a pair of good overheads. Tune the kit correctly and get the levels and go. Maybe a bit of compression.

One mic straight into a recorder ain't gonna cut it.
 
PhilGood said:
It's all about the signal path and mixing.

The right mics on the right drums in the right places. You need a good kick mic, good snare and tom mics and a pair of good overheads. Tune the kit correctly and get the levels and go. Maybe a bit of compression.

One mic straight into a recorder ain't gonna cut it.
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exactly!!!! , then throw a SPL transient designer in there if you cant achieve your goal through conventional means;)
 
PhilGood said:
It's all about the signal path and mixing.

The right mics on the right drums in the right places. You need a good kick mic, good snare and tom mics and a pair of good overheads. Tune the kit correctly and get the levels and go. Maybe a bit of compression.

One mic straight into a recorder ain't gonna cut it.
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don't forget the room.
 
rofl nice one donkeystyle. yeah i think close mics are gonna be the way to go on this one bud.... one mic just isn't gonna do it, unless you have some godly eq that will bring out JUST and ONLY the freqs you want......... but i dont see much luck for you there.
 
petermiller said:
exactly!!!! , then throw a SPL transient designer in there if you cant achieve your goal through conventional means;)
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Well, he's got 'an old dynamic mic,' and that's it. I think an SPL TD at this juncture is pushing his budget and expectations a bit!
 
If you wanted to do it pretty minimalistically, I'd get a four track mixer, two condensor microphones for overheads, an SM57 for the snare, and maybe a cheapy CAD or Nady mic for the kick. You could get your drums to sound pretty good that way, really. There are a few good methods out there that only employ three or four microphones.
 
yup yup. you could probably pull it off with one overhead if you dont care about stereo spread, but two would be much better. either one omni or two cardioids would do the trick.
 
yaknski said:
You should try doubling the kick
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Hawaiian Punch? be careful it might stain the heads or shells.

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Argh! You beat me to it with the Hawaiian Punch! hehehehehe!
 
Thanks for answering. I was hoping I could get away with just adding some EQ. I don't know what an SPL TD is.
 
A lot of the "Punch" is a good compressor. In your situation, your not going to be able to have much control over the total sound, but some compression would definitely help with a nice punch.
 
fivesixonesk8er said:
A lot of the "Punch" is a good compressor. In your situation, your not going to be able to have much control over the total sound, but some compression would definitely help with a nice punch.
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A fruit salad would probably go well also. maybe some vodka.
 
do the drums have punch in the room? if not, they're not going to have it on the recording.

90% of recording drums (or anything for that matter) is to get them sounding like you want them to sound BEFORE you put a mic in front of it.

with drums, this starts with the ROOM. then come the drums themselves, the heads, how they're tuned, the drummer, the sticks and how they hit the drums......THEN come the mics, preamps, compressors, gates, reverbs, etc.

so if you want to record drums to have some punch, they have to have punch in the room when the drummer's playing them. you can't record or mix what's not there.


cheers,
wade
 
How bout I punch you in the throat while you're playing?




There MidiPunk, is that better? :D
 
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