Gidge told me so.....kind of.

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Between work and re-modeling my small studio, I still haven't had much time to experiment recording my first set of "E-Drums".

Setting up a "User Kit" has taken as much effort as setting up a VCR and 181 channel TV back in the 80's, but overall the drum sounds available are all that I had hoped for.
The one thing that's eluding me are cymbals that sound appropriate in a hard rock lineup. The processor lists several hundred types of chinas, splash, crash and rides in every concievable size but nothing that really rocks my socks. I should mention that all the hats sound great and the Roland hat pedal is sensitive and great to work with.

I'm thinking I might go back to real brass and a pair of condensors. My concern here is whether or not the sounds of sticks striking the rubber pads will bleed into the mix.
It may be that I have to record a seperate track for cymbals. This will feel awkward, but may wind up being the ultimate blend.

Any thoughts besides "I told ya so."? :D
 
I've seen a band with an incredible drummer a while back. They did kindof dance music, with live -partly electronic- drums (guy wearing headphone with clicks. Awesome), live synths, guitars with amazing solo's and a chick studying jazz-singing. The backing vocals were sampled and played back with a sequencer. They were incredibly good. We were even doubting about the girl playbacking, but she wasn't. She didn't sing one note out of tune. Perfect.

Anyway, that guy had a setup using patches for everything except cymbals hihat and snare. Amazingly well sounding cymbal and snare too. Dude was awesome. Jazzrhytms on his ride all the time, brushes now and then, about everything...

He used an old alesis sound module, and some other things too. Don't know if he had his own sampler. We talked to him afterwards. He didn't like the samples in the commercial available modules since they aren't dynamic enough. So he fiddled with a velocity controlled filter to get a more dynamic sound.

By the way, he made his own kick-patch using a piezoelectrical pickup, that costs nothing. It did give him quit alot of trouble to get the right amount of spring back...

And to answer your question, the sound of the patches isn't all that hard, if you point your mics away from the pads, directly to the cymbals, I think you can get away with it... The Roland V-drum thingy is very quiet, if you really need it...
 
Hi Roel,

Do you mean the band Bolchi?

The singer also studies at the conservatory of Ghent, like me, and we attend several classes together. She sings awesome (and looks pretty good also:)). And their live performance is idd great
 
hey getuhgrip, perhaps you could use gates to block the noise of the pads getting through? quite alot of these electronic kit setups i've seen have real cymbals on them, so it seems like a pretty popular thing to do, but then again most of the electronic kits i've seen are from early ninties modern drummer mags, bad haircuts and all
 
" Any thoughts besides "I told ya so."? "

no, that about sums it up.......
 
no, that about sums it up.......
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Pesimist!

"Oh yea of little faith!"

Come on, Deputy.
Seriously, the drum sounds are sweet! It's just the cymbals that sound like car crashes from "MId-Town Madness III"

So I guess I'm back to looking for a pair of C1000s or 603's and some Zildjians.
 
Give a man a thousand posts and he wants to be a drummer......:rolleyes: :eek: :D :p
 
id go with the 603's or the Behringer ECM8000's........
 
You could sample your own cymbal sounds and use those. The problem with most cymbal samples is that they dont have enough decay. Make your own 24bit 30sec long cymbal samples and they'll probably sound great with no worrying about mic bleed.
 
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