Getting Phantom Power with mixing boards that don't have it?

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I have an Alesis 1622 mixing board and an M-Audio fast track Ultra 8r interface the mixing board doesn't have phantom power, but the interface does i'm wondering if the phantom power from the interface will transfer through the mixing board? i'll be having the 8 track ouputs going to the interface's inputs the only reason i haven't tested is because i don't have all the cables i need to test it i'm waiting for the ones i bought in the mail. if i can't get phantom power from the interface am i just stuck buying a separate piece of equipment? if so can someone recommend something that works well for a decent price?
 
Phantom power won't pass from the interface's inputs out to the mixer's inputs. You will need an external phantom power supply for each channel that needs phantom power. Single channel supplies go for about $40 and you can also get dual channel supplies.

Why do you need a mixer?
 
i honestly don't really need a mixer at all, but i want to become more familiar with a board, plus i like turning pan pots and faders i actually feel like i'm accomplishing something rather than clicking over and over. one thing i have noticed that i thought might be helpful is i noticed that when i'm miking a snare on a kit it will clip even at the most minimal gain from the interface and I've tried backing it off, but a lot of the time other stuff bleeds in more than i'd like. i think it may just be the mics i'm using i bought a fairly cheap 8 piece mic kit off of ebay, i was hoping the mixer would help me have a little more control over the gain on without causing clipping. i have since upgraded some mics since that last time i recorded a kit so i want to see how that turns out, but i haven't had a chance to test them out yet. i've only really been engineering for the last 4 years so i am a bit new and i haven't had alot of time for it either because of my regular job.
 
i bought it off a bum walking around community college for 20$ and it completely works... you can't beat that haha.
 
make sure to buy phantom power supply for the mics that are condenser mics, Dynamic Mics dont need 48V or phantom power.
cpl tips on your snare recording, make sure your gain is as low as possible ....if you want more gain then just simply lift the high-hat up a bit , most condenser mics wont pick up much from 230 degrees and more... also in some cases where the drummer is not comfortable lifting the hi-hat, I hv used a small pad to cover the path of the hi-hat waves to snare for preventing rebound of the high hat waves on the snare head...
 
How many mics do you have that need spook juice?

In any event it is possible that the Ulltra will work as a "stand alone" preamp and you can use the mic amps in that and send 8 line level signals to the mixer.....Or sommat! Hard to know what will work or not with being hands on. You can generally plug audio kit about as you fancy without harm.

Even if "SA" is not possible you can take a signal from the insets and have two mic channels with +48V.

The manual for that mixer is very comprehensive! Almost a course on recording in itself! Whatever you do you are going to need a LOT of cables! Some of them specials. I would invest in a decent soldering station, a table vice and some tools!

Dave.
 
Bleed is a matter of mics and sources, not gain. The interface probably has better sounding preamps.
 
no no i know that that leaks don't have anything to do with gain let me clear that up, i just want more control over the gain having the knob on my interfaced i don't feel gives me comfortable control over the gain cause sometimes i cut it back too much or give it too much having a fader is much easier and smoother. and as far as the snare i've moved it up pretty far away before and it would still clip even at pretty much zero on the gain, but I've replaced it with an SM57 which i imagine will bode much better results. and i'm not completely new to engineering i have taken a good amount of classes on it i've just been using my interface for the past years only and i want to get some more mixer experience all i have is what i learned in class and sometimes a class environment bodes differently than real life. i only have 3 condensors really 2 overheads and a vocal mic so i would only need a box that can support 2 channels of phantom which is pretty cheap on ebay. and @guitaristic yea i'm pretty sure it was stolen, but it was a good price so i didn't worry about it haha.
 
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