Getting a wider vocal, bigger sound

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Just doing a quick mix with a rock tune that has a lot of guitars going on. Any suggestions other than double tracking, to give the vocal track a bigger, wider sound? I have lots of plug ins, Waves bundle, etc ...
 
Hmm....slight chorus, maybe slight delay? Somewhere in one of the Waves packages lies a Doubler plugin - something like Doubler 2 and Doubler 4. Could try playing around with that one. I don't have it, but have seen it in the plugins list on another DAW.
 
:D :rolleyes: Yo Future Nova:

Try this to "widen" your vocals.

When mixing your tracks to stereo, push up the vocal track , a bit. Maybe soften the loudest instrument a bit.

When you play back the stereo track, the vocal will have doubled unless you have panned it all the way left or right. I usually keep my vocals straight up when mixing the stereo track before burning a CD.

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ot but how is saw studio working for you? Not many seem to use it.
 
fldrummer said:
ot but how is saw studio working for you? Not many seem to use it.
$2500 retail - a bit out of my budget !
I guess it works very well then for recording, mixing, and mastering ?
 
Try adding another vocal track (a different performance) and compressing it a bit harder than normal. Add a slight chorus and soften the track a bit more with a slight reverb. When you mix it with the main vocal track, pan it 10% or so away from the main vocal and have it about 30% quieter than the main vocal.

I'm not an expert, but this seems to work for me. Just listen to make sure it isn't causing a dorky chorus effect with the main vocal, unless that's what you want. Usually the compression takes care of it.
 
try panning the vocals hard left(or right for that matter) and adding a slight delay... something under 35msec... because the ear cant hear the delay at something lower than that you will only get the effect of the vocal being stretched across the mix... if you go higher than 35msec you'll begin to hear the delay... you may even hear it at 35, so just mess around with it.
 
Carve out some holes in the guitars to let the vocal shine thru. That should give you both the presence and 'width' you want without popping out of the track.

I'd recommend a cut around 400-600mhz and one around 3khz. Guitars can tend to sound overly edgy around 3khz anyways, so that is often a good place to cut.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm going to try a few of these options. As far as Saw Studio goes, I really like it so far - I'm using it at a studio here in town. I still have a bit of a learning curve to go though ... :D
 
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