Fostex Vs. Tascam

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It used to be, way back when, that Tascam was the leader as far as multitrack porta-studios went. With Fostex in their wake...
Everything I heard back then was Tascam is the best, Fostex is good but it ain't Tascam.

It seems to me that the digital era has sort of levelled the playing field, and with so many others manufacturing portable studios (Korg, Boss, Zoom et al), what is your opinion now? I know that there are many variables, but pound for pound, does Tascam still make the superior machine?
 
I keep ending up with Fostex stuff because I find it used for a cheap price.



I have a feeling that that sentence speaks volumes about the two...yet I don't recall having any problems with any of the Fostex crap I've ended up with.
 
I went with Fostex for the price too, and the fact that I don't like to figure out complicated equipment, I want to plug it in and go. So I got the MR-8...
 
Rokket, just a curiosity, Sasebo , Japan for now. Why? Job, or something else? Just being nosey, so if too personal, sorry. Just have seen this on your post. My Brother just returned from Japan, but it was a short business trip.
 
Dogman said:
Rokket, just a curiosity, Sasebo , Japan for now. Why? Job, or something else? Just being nosey, so if too personal, sorry. Just have seen this on your post. My Brother just returned from Japan, but it was a short business trip.
Stationed here in the Navy. Retire in about 5 months....
 
Eeh, thought this thread would generate a bit more interest....


I guess I could sit here and argue with myself, but I always lose.....
 
Anyway, I think I need to say this here, since no one is listening (uh, reading :o)...

It seems to me that with the advent of digital and all, and now direct to pc recording, there are so many people who want to jump right in and do this without a clue as to what they are doing. Then I see as many as 10 posts in the newbie forum asking the same thing "I hooked up my (insert soundcard/interface name here), and now I can't get it to work.

It's the reason why I never got into it in the first place. Besides all the added cons: latency issues, monitoring problems, software issues; you have the added pain of hooking this thing up to your pc in the first place. Then someone will come in, and can't understand why their 10 year old pc with windoze 98 and 64mb RAM won't record their music?

It's the reason why I always suggest that they go the SIAB route first. But then someone will always step on my toes and tell them, no it's easy, here's what you do: (insert gratuitous advise on how to install soundcard/interface and make it work).

Newbie comes back and still doesn't quite understand...

It's so tempting to jump on the bandwagon with pc recording. EVERYONE is doing it, and everyone thinks they are the next (once again, insert popular band name)...

But then find out to their horror that it's not everything they thought it was. The issues are still there. Some have overcome and are now posting wonderful, creative things in the mp3 clinic. Now it's just a matter of learning the all-to-important skill of mixing...

But for everyone I see who is doing it, there are 10 per day coming in and asking the same tired questions.

In the time it took for me to write this post, I can get about 4 tracks laid on my MR-8. There is only a couple common cables to hook up, turn it on, and record. It's all laid out for me. The old 4- track portastudios were the same: easy to use.

Why go through all of that (not to mention the money spent on it all from the dedicated pc through to the soundcard/interface and everything else in the chain) when it takes meer seconds to set up, and minutes to learn a SIAB?

I am just ranting...
 
Rokket, I'm with'ya on this one!!

You make some good points.

Yes, the same bbs questions over & over can get tiresome. If users use the search function, it lessens the tedium, but whether we respond to a post is a choice. I always try to post in a value-added capacity.

For a lot of the posts I read the answers would often be:
-you need an RCA-to-1/8" Y-cable adapter; it's the belt; it's the difference between Buss mode & Direct mode recording; PAN controls track assignment; a mixer already has preamps so you don't need another one; it's sticky shed syndrome; you gotta use Type II cassettes in Portastudios; you're not using the CUE system properly and that's causing the bleed; call Tascam to order your manuals.:D

Also, it might seem more courteous if people post something of substance to establish a presence and some credibility before asking to be critiqued in the MP3 forum!! The vibe's just better that way. A lot of people do a hit-&-run thing with their MP3 posting on bbs's, and I find that unpleasant. (YMMV).

As for me, I don't always sit on the web. I do lots of "preproduction" in my head, and in the studio. I practice regularly.;) I'm not that good of a musician, but I believe it takes lots of dedication, that goes beyond just talking about it. Sometimes I struggle with creativity issues, energy & motivation issues, but I'll always hang in there and try to keep hands-on and moving forward with music.

As with most things, in musicanship and record production, you have to start at the basics & work your way up! Whether that's on a cassette 4-track Portastudio, or something fancy, ya'gotta learning the ropes by just doing it. Not to mention, it's just plain fun!

I've always believed a high end Portastudio is best for starters,... and I'm always inclined to recommend them. They're user friendly for beginners & also tech-loaded enough to sustain the more experienced users, in more complex productions.

I've gone up to 8-track reel, but I've never lost my Portastudio roots! I still have & use them. With proper technique, the cassette 4-track can deliver very robust sound. Not all 4-trackers are Portastudios, and not all Portastudios were created equal, but there are some gems out there, and the high-end Portastudios are very capable machines.

For people new to recording, I always like to remind them that computer isn't the only recording option, or necessarily the best in all cases. E'one's different, and for a certain type of people, the analog style of recording is preferrable. You know me, I'm heavily biased toward analog recorders and mixers. Puter recording is not for me, and only a handful of DAW's seem passable. For some people, the whole digital recording experience rocks, and there's no turning back. As always, YMMV.

I'm v'y much in favor of e'one to get into recording, in the hopes that it raises the bar in the home recording community. Sharing our experiences on home recording's what this board is all about.

I don't believe I'll ever record any big hits, but I'll always do it for fun!

Anyway,... what was the topic???

:eek: :confused: ;)
 
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Ah! I just remembered the original question!

I think Fostex has levelled the field against Tascam in recent years.

Thanx!! ;)
 
A Reel Person said:
I think Fostex has levelled the field against Tascam in recent years.

Thanx!! ;)
Well, believe it or not, I read every word of both of your posts (the second one was easier, LOL!). And I can see that I am not the only one who stays out of the newbie forum... It's sad, really. People showing up and post #1 is "hey look what I did. Stroke my ego, tell me I'm great." Then Jake hits them between the eyes and boom! Off to rant and rave and act like a kid at least 20 years younger than they really are.

And one more thing that gets me... Newbies giving advice to newbies...

Buddy, your post count is still in double digits (sometimes it's not as high as my 3 year old can count...). You were asking the same question a week ago, and now you're giving advice to someone on how to set up his 'puter??? Did you get yours set up yet? Are you recording with the same pc you're sufing this site with?

FUCK!

Oh, well. That's the biggest reason I hang out in the cave nowadays. I still wander out here for cool things like a collaberation. But I don't post much help anymore.

Plus I got tired of a newbie flaming my scales because I told him what he wanted to hear and he couldn't comprehend what I was saying. So I said it again and again. By the 5th time I said it, I wasn't as nice. Bruised his pussy, so he gave me a red rep point.

Like that hurt...

Well, rant part two is over for me. I hope this thread gets back on track. I kinda derailed it myself.


And back on track: Fostex has come of age. That's why I use them. Maybe after I go through a couple more of their models I'll start recommending them.

Or maybe I should just recommend a G4 MAC and an MAudio soundcard.


48 tracks for 49 bucks, anyone?
 
I'm so sorry!!! I had to delete that rant!!!

I think you know what I'm talking about.

I couldn't post that rant, I burned myself out on it!

Sorry, catch my edit!!

All you other guys, you just had to be there!

I didn't want to go all negative on'ya!!!!!

I believe in what I say, but I don't want to be inflammatory.

:eek: ;)
 
I own two Fostex machines and just sold a Tascam...

So yes, either Fostex is holding it's own (and then some) or I'm really dumb... :rolleyes:

Rokket and Reel... Can you guys come over and hook up my stuff so my band can play you a song? We'll probably need some help writing it... and naming it... Oh, and if you can play it for us too so we can see what we're doing wrong... Hmmm.. 'wrong' isn't the right word, cause we fucking kick ass so we basically are just wanting to get some positive strokes and our family isn't helping out...
Oh... and if you know of any really kewl band names with killer ways to spell it... you know... using too many 'Z's and shit?

Oh... and one more thing...

:D
 
I have a friend who's an incredibly talented musician, who's name is ZaKK,...

but I know better. ;)

(Ya'gotta catch my heavy edit, above!)

Rokket, congrats on the upcoming retirement! It takes committment! A 20-year lifer! Sheesh!;)


I have about an 80-20% split of Tascams to Fostexes. All most all of it's legacy gear, & almost all analog.

Currently, I believe Fostex has levelled the field with Tascam on capability, quality, design & ease of use issues of home recording gear.;) Fostex has always had some innovative stuff. A little lesser build quality than Tascam in some cases, but other times Fostex keyed in on great features, on which Tascam just missed the boat. :eek:

In the end, you have to find a recording platform that works for you, & just do something with it. :eek:
 
BentRabbit: With a drummer like that dude, you are beyond KEWL!!!
 
A Reel Person said:
but I know better. ;)

(Ya'gotta catch my heavy edit, above!)

Rokket, congrats on the upcoming retirement! It takes committment! A 20-year lifer! Sheesh!;)


I have about an 80-20% split of Tascams to Fostexes. All most all of it's legacy gear, & almost all analog.

Currently, I believe Fostex has levelled the field with Tascam on capability, quality, design & ease of use issues of home recording gear.;) Fostex has always had some innovative stuff. A little lesser build quality than Tascam in some cases, but other times Fostex keyed in on great features, on which Tascam just missed the boat. :eek:

In the end, you have to find a recording platform that works for you, & just do something with it. :eek:
My biggest concern is that every time I tell someone I own a Fostex, I get that look ( :rolleyes: )

I am very happy with it. It was a gift, and I never turn down free shit (to date, I was given the MR-8, a drum machine, a mic, and a vocal processor...)
I haven't had to buy too much of my own gear. Which is alright because the spousal unit pretty much frowns on my spending money on a hobby when we have a house that needs attention, and there may be some down time between saying adios Navy and hello 9-5....

Overall, I can't complain. I am happy with the MR-8. And considering the fact that I don't have a good monitoring chain or pre amps or anything else I need, I am not doing too bad. There are guys on here with thousands of dollars in gear making shit recordings compared to mine...
 
Since I am on a roll, I may as well add that the main thing I look for in any of my gear is ease of use. I don't want to spend weeks messing things up trying to learn how to use something effectively.

Ergo the MR-8. Yeah, it has it's limitations. Yeah, the pre amps, effects and amp and mic modelling ain't great. So what? It's the closest thing to using an analog multitracker that I've seen. It's easy to use, and you can be recording as soon as you get it out of the box.

I know, because I was!

That's it. I welcome all opinions.
 
Im very loyal to Tascam. They started it all w/ the portastudio.....then their 586 MD system...........then the 788...............etc.

Dont know much about fostex, used to have an x15 prtable battery powered 4 track(pretty cool for the time). But I do know that 5 years ago, the fostexs converters sounded really bad compared to the tascam. Pretty safe assumption that the technology playing field has leveled as of late.

As for user freindlines, if ya gotta brain you can figure any of these machines out.

I agree that compared to recording on PC, these machines are so easy to gun and run w/ ideas. I use both. Like to track on my 788, then dump to my pc for plugins and mixdowns.
 
Rokket said:
Since I am on a roll, I may as well add that the main thing I look for in any of my gear is ease of use. I don't want to spend weeks messing things up trying to learn how to use something effectively.

Ergo the MR-8. Yeah, it has it's limitations. Yeah, the pre amps, effects and amp and mic modelling ain't great. So what? It's the closest thing to using an analog multitracker that I've seen. It's easy to use, and you can be recording as soon as you get it out of the box.

I know, because I was!

That's it. I welcome all opinions.

Don't know what I'd get if I ever upgrade, but I agree with Rokket - the MR-8, with all it's limitations, is easy to use and is great for the bucks. I can't say I've ever looked at the manual, except to figure out how to do a punch in...
 
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