Forge's 3 hours limit

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Could someone please explain why SForge has some sort of limit to record from one take no more then 3 hours?

I leave sometimes to record some interviews from radio and no matter is temp folder set on internal IDE or external SCSI drives, it just wont record more then 3 hours !

There is no option of any kind to address this limitation, and it certainly isn’t one deficient by drive space.

Any ideas how to sort this out ?
 
SPINSTERWUN said:
How large is your hard drive?
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Just for sake of your question :

2x 120MB IDE + 6x SCSI Mac/PC shared (5x18,1x36)

No SPINSTERWUN clearly not the case with the size in my case,
but with some default setup SForge has with this limit.

With all undo off, even 2GB drive could be more then adequate
to travel over that size.

Well, what does your SF says?

My says always : over 2hours available
 
Hmmmmmmmmmm

I'm not sure?

I'll set my SF to record when I leave tonight.

Let's see how long my SF records......

Peace..

spin

PS: Did you mean 120 GB?
 
Hahaha, yes, 120GB’s !!

I deliberately for sake of joke made that error since you asked me how big are the drives.

Great, thanks for volunteering help, I guess you will get about 3 hours and maybe some 20 minutes.

But, lets wait to see, intrigued to see your results, since this default analyses of available HD size in Forge is obviously not reflecting actual size , but some internal limit or setup within SF.
 
I recorded for at least seven hours twenty two minutes and thirty eight seconds (7:22:38:000) before my niece accidentally shut down the computer.

I am using SF7.

spin
 
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What OS are you guys using.? Windows 98 had a file size limit of 2 GB, if I recall. So you could have a fifty terabyte drive and it would still stop when it had reached the 2 GB level in the file.

I just didi a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation and at 24/96; a stereo file would take up 33 MB/minute... 3 hours would be 1.98 GB. So a little past three hours and you hit the max.

I really had a hard time with videos on Windows 98 because it was very easy to reach 2 GB with just a short amount of full resolution DV data...

Windows 2000 and WIndows XP don't have this limit.
 
I am using XP.

I didn't have a problem with recording more than three hours. :)

spin
 
SPINSTERWUN,

Thank you kindly for taking record test.

In fact, I have to be frank, that observation was made for old 4.5 version.Since few days I have purchased new 7 as well.

So I will make a test, but I’m sure this is now obsolete problem, although, there is something chilling in remark AlChuck made because I’m using W2000Pro, (I despise XP).

Will make my report in day or two, again, thank you SPINSTERWUN
 
Anthony said:
So I will make a test, but I’m sure this is now obsolete problem, although, there is something chilling in remark AlChuck made because I’m using W2000Pro, (I despise XP).
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I'm using SF 6.0 with Win2K and have no problems with a time limit.

Prior to that I had SF 5 and it too had no problems recording files > 3 hours......

If your hard drives are formatted as FAT32 in Win2K, you will still encounter the 2 gig limit.... you need to format them as NTFS......
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
.....If your hard drives are formatted as FAT32 in Win2K, you will still encounter the 2 gig limit.... you need to format them as NTFS......
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Very good point, Bruce. :cool:
 
Pardons for delay in response.

3 hours & over - limitation is ad-acta.

SForge 7 has entirely different approach of handling files, so problems like this are gone for good.

Fat32 or NTFS all the same, this finally works ! (Tested and verified W2000)

However, after I have purchased new 7 and worked a bit with the same…

Things I love when compared old 4.5 to new version 7 :


* Much more smooth in just about every operation.

* Super efficient allocation when editing and undo

* Super (did I fail to mention Super?) Super file recovering and
instant recognition,no more looking in temp’s to re-open files
devastated under system crash.

* Super flexible recognition of my Adaptec SCSI cards.

* Sony employed serious DSP and algorithms from its own series
of renowned effect processors,where SF was just competent,
Sony brought true professional results into EFX engine.
No I don’t think it is quite in Eventide/TC/Lexicon league, but this is anyway open for discussion, as everyone has special set of
his own preferences, combined with supplied experience.


Things I dislike :

As always programmers think that some things should be changed in-style for every season.


* Recording transport bar is dreadful when compared to old 4.5,
simply over sexy’sized for my own taste, truly lacking
functionality of transport bar found in 4.5.

* Record Remote is experiencing the same routine and now lacks
few options from older versions, they shouldn’t play with these
things !!!

* Sampler is still somewhat rudimentary when compared to my old
Alchemy and some competition.

When I communicate with my hardware samplers via SMDI,, it
would be nice for SF to switch entirely in some Sampler mode
(like D-Sound) with all options up and ready to go.

Everytime, I finish editing sample and the same is ready to be
sent via SMDI, it is really boring to have to go again and again
to Tools/Sampler simply to hit send sample.

They need , no, they must implement single dedicated mode
within SForge to deal with Sampler alone, you even can’t find
Sampler offered for view options, this is serious flaw !

It is truly sad to see how poor Sampler is integrated in visual
interface when you consider how capable it is. I hope they will
understand that this requires entirely new approach

I would like to hear what you like and dislike >?<
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Forgive me - I know computers, but what's "ad-acta"?

Also - have you tried the "Auto-region" tool in SF7? Is it any better in terms of implementation than previous versions??
The implementation in SF 6 is kinda silly - uses attack/release calibrated in percentage rather than using dB levels...... makes it extremeyl difficult to set up in a consistent manner.

On a related note - anyone know of any software that handles splitting audio files into chunks better than SF? Maybe something specifically dedicated to that process??
 
Ad-acta?

Is that what casting directors do to a movie project?
 
Or......

What wanna-be actors/actresses do on the casting couch. :D
 
AlChuck & Blue Bear Sound,

Gentleman, surely you have learned at least a fraction of Latin while back in school days? ;-)

Ad-acta is Latin for something that is considered as finished in rather solid way. (simplified)

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Blue Bear Sound -

Also - have you tried the "Auto-region" tool in SF7? Is it any better in terms of implementation than previous versions??
On a related note - anyone know of any software that handles splitting audio files into chunks better than SF? Maybe something specifically dedicated to that process??
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No, I haven't tried Auto region, will do.

As for Chunks?

Yes, on Mac with D-Sound and somewhat with Alchemy.

On PC?, have you ever tried Samplitude?
 
I did learn a fair share of Latin in my school days, but never have come across ad-acta before.
 
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