First Mix With Reaper!

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First Mix With Reaper! UPDATED!!!

Just thought I'd throw this out there. I was thinking of adding something to it. It seems a little... 'hollow'.

Ideas...?


With You Tonight


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I made the changes as mentioned below. The vocal stands out and there is less reverb.

Hopefully, this worked.
 
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Rokket said:
Just thought I'd throw this out there. I was thinking of adding something to it. It seems a little... 'hollow'.

Ideas...?


With You Tonight
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Well, I think it needs more cowbell.

:) :) :)

Truth be told, it's reasonably complete as is, has sort of an Alan Parsons thing going. but you're hiding the vox WAY back in the mix, and you shouldn't. ;)

And if it were mine to doodle with, I'd maybe have a gentle Rhodes pad thing happening, but that's me.. :) Nothing fancy, just enough to give the guitars room to move without them having to bear all the chordal weight.
 
Llarion said:
Nothing fancy, just enough to give the guitars room to move without them having to bear all the chordal weight.
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That's what I was thinking. Maybe not the Rhodes pad exactly, but something else to help the guitars out.

hmmmm....
 
I like the acoustics.
It doesn't sound hollow to me, sounds complete.:)
 
RocknRollOver said:
I like the acoustics.
It doesn't sound hollow to me, sounds complete.:)
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Thanks! I'm never satisfied with the sound of my acoustic guitars. I am always looking for ways within my limits (no pres, no mics) to make them sound good. I think I may have had the mics too close this time. I can hear the pick clicking on the strings.
 
Sounds pretty decent man...vox could use some work...dry them up a bit, and bring them up more. Make them more the focus of the tune. The overall vibe is good....just tweak it some. Get your point across with the vocals...that's what matters in a tune like this. :)
 
Dogman said:
Sounds pretty decent man...vox could use some work...dry them up a bit, and bring them up more. Make them more the focus of the tune. The overall vibe is good....just tweak it some. Get your point across with the vocals...that's what matters in a tune like this. :)
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I'll work on it. Vocals have always been my achilles heel. I guess I just don't like listening to my own voice, and it never sounds full enough for me so I over compensate with the effects.

I'll tone it down and bring it up and see what happens.

Thanks Ed!!!!
 
Rokket said:
I'll work on it. Vocals have always been my achilles heel. I guess I just don't like listening to my own voice, and it never sounds full enough for me so I over compensate with the effects.

I'll tone it down and bring it up and see what happens.

Thanks Ed!!!!
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Mainly, dry it out some...a little goes a long way, and with this, I feel the vocals are the main focal point. Make them sound pretty natural...double them, or something to make them fat, but don't make them sound phony. Try and get something that sounds natural...which I find hard to do, so I got no real advice there...:D
 
The Dog has a bead on it... Dry it out a bit, get the vox upfront more...
 
I was listening to Spector and Lennon working on a session and the 'verb they had was just insane.
 
I'll give it some more attention and post a remix a bit later!

Thanks everyone!
 
I like the song quite a bit. I can only echo the other comments: unwet the vocals and make them more up front.

I guess I just don't like listening to my own voice,
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I predicted this. I have sung on exactly two tracks, and they sounded like yours.:D I reverbed the hell out of them and tried to bury them, thinking nobody would notice.:p Your voice is fine, you aint Pavarotti but you have a Neil Young-ish quality. Good tune.:)
 
DavidK said:
I like the song quite a bit. I can only echo the other comments: unwet the vocals and make them more up front.



I predicted this. I have sung on exactly two tracks, and they sounded like yours.:D I reverbed the hell out of them and tried to bury them, thinking nobody would notice.:p Your voice is fine, you aint Pavarotti but you have a Neil Young-ish quality. Good tune.:)
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I am working on bringing the vocals upfront while dulling down the 'verb.

Neil Young? I've never heard that one before! LOL...

I've now been compared to Neil Young, and Tom Petty the last 3 years I've been on these boards... :cool:
 
Nice acoustic sounds. I reckon it needs a guitar up the centre - BUT at low vol & pretty much a sustained constant strum tube distorted sound - like the Go-Betweens' Head Full of Steam from Liberty Belle & the Black Diamond Express - almost not there but like a Matisse green stripe - holding the sides together. - it could be a keyboard line or even your organ beefed up a little.
I'd pull the drums back some though.
I like the wet vox.
The bass needs more pick attack in the 1st minute or so - it comes up clear & defined after the 1st couple of bass runs but prior to that it lacks definition.
Reaper seemed to be pretty cool!
 
rayc said:
Nice acoustic sounds. I reckon it needs a guitar up the centre - BUT at low vol & pretty much a sustained constant strum tube distorted sound - like the Go-Betweens' Head Full of Steam from Liberty Belle & the Black Diamond Express - almost not there but like a Matisse green stripe - holding the sides together. - it could be a keyboard line or even your organ beefed up a little.
I'd pull the drums back some though.
I like the wet vox.
The bass needs more pick attack in the 1st minute or so - it comes up clear & defined after the 1st couple of bass runs but prior to that it lacks definition.
Reaper seemed to be pretty cool!
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The drums are canned, and I am looking for someone to redo them...

I am still looking for that ellusive track that I am going to fill it out with. I don't quite know what I am going to use yet, but you offer a really good suggestion.

I did the bass like that on purpose, trying to build on the tension of the song. I may redo it after hearing this....:rolleyes:

Thanks for the listen and the detailed critique!
 
apl said:
It was on the radio, Beatles Brunch. Lennon was covering old rock and roll songs.
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See what I miss out on? I stopped listening to the radio in the 90's because it was filled with tripe. I guess there are some gems thrown in with the garbage after all...:rolleyes:
 
I agree with everything Dogman said. Vox are too wet and too back in the mix. I also agree with you that there is too much pick attack on the strings. Maybe leave the pick attack on one guitar, but lose some of it on the other. Pretty nice sone though. Good melody.
 
Greg_L said:
I agree with everything Dogman said. Vox are too wet and too back in the mix. I also agree with you that there is too much pick attack on the strings. Maybe leave the pick attack on one guitar, but lose some of it on the other. Pretty nice sone though. Good melody.
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That tears it. I need to retrack. Going to get working on this one tomorrow. Right now, it's 10:20PM Sunday night here. I think Mama would tear my head off if I was to go into the studio (I mean spare bedroom) right now...
 
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