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o0Charlie0o
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Any suggestions on levels and other various things to make this sound better would be greatly appreciated.
Any suggestions on levels and other various things to make this sound better would be greatly appreciated.
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mikemoritz
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I'll try and give a listen later ( at work now ), but you'll probably have better luck with people listening in the MP3 Mixing forum a little further down the board.
Peace out,
Mike
Peace out,
Mike
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o0Charlie0o
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Oh, well I thought this would've been more of a recording issue because of mic placements, and volumes and settings on the mixer...
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chessrock
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Alright Charlie, today I feel generous so I'm going to give you some free advice.
It's actually a pretty good recording and performance. But here's some EQ tips that I think are going to be very important as you mix in other things:
The toms are a little dominant. Their main frequencies are in a wide area between 100 and 180. Very generally speaking, the kick and the snare should be the most prominent.
Your kick is right where it should be; smack dab at about 80 hz, which is common for most rock drums. Your snare is tuned a little higher than normal, as it resonates around 250 hz. Your kick is just a little buried amongst a lot of low-end rumble and tom action.
If you were able to go back to your mix and fix it, it would be pretty simple. Just turn the toms down, boost the hell out of the kick and snare mics, or both.
If remixing weren't an option and this were what I had to work, this is how I'd EQ it:
* Boost the hell out of 80 hz (more kick)
* Boost 250 hz, as well (more snare)
* Low-shelf everything below 50 hz, and cut off everything below 30 or 40 (will improve definition).
* Make a very significant cut on everything between 100 and 180 hz (will help reduce the volume of the toms)
* Make another significant cut on everything between 500 and 900 hz (will help them fit better in a mix, as this is where a lot of the vocals and guitar will want to reside)
* Boost the heck out of 2.5 hz with a wide Q to bring out more definition on the kick and snare.
* Do a small high-shelf boost on 4 khz on up for a just a touch more crispness in the cymbals.
It's actually a pretty good recording and performance. But here's some EQ tips that I think are going to be very important as you mix in other things:
The toms are a little dominant. Their main frequencies are in a wide area between 100 and 180. Very generally speaking, the kick and the snare should be the most prominent.
Your kick is right where it should be; smack dab at about 80 hz, which is common for most rock drums. Your snare is tuned a little higher than normal, as it resonates around 250 hz. Your kick is just a little buried amongst a lot of low-end rumble and tom action.
If you were able to go back to your mix and fix it, it would be pretty simple. Just turn the toms down, boost the hell out of the kick and snare mics, or both.
If remixing weren't an option and this were what I had to work, this is how I'd EQ it:
* Boost the hell out of 80 hz (more kick)
* Boost 250 hz, as well (more snare)
* Low-shelf everything below 50 hz, and cut off everything below 30 or 40 (will improve definition).
* Make a very significant cut on everything between 100 and 180 hz (will help reduce the volume of the toms)
* Make another significant cut on everything between 500 and 900 hz (will help them fit better in a mix, as this is where a lot of the vocals and guitar will want to reside)
* Boost the heck out of 2.5 hz with a wide Q to bring out more definition on the kick and snare.
* Do a small high-shelf boost on 4 khz on up for a just a touch more crispness in the cymbals.
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o0Charlie0o
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Wow thanks...
Do you think i should turn up the overheads? As well as turn down the toms?
Do you think i should turn up the overheads? As well as turn down the toms?
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chessrock
Banned
Just turn those toms down !
My suspicion is the overheads are already picking up a lot of the toms on their own, so they don't need very much help from the tom mics -- perhaps just a little bit to add some extra beef. Right now you've got the overheads picking up a lot of tom . . . and the tom mics picking up a lot of tom, so that's too much tom going on.
Another option: you could cut a big chunk out of everything between 100-180 hz on the overhead mics, because that's where your toms are. That will allow you to get a better blend between the overhead and tom mics without allowing the toms to dominate the mix so much.
Definitely turn up the kick and snare, moreso on the kick.
You can't really tell from listening to the drums in solo mode, because right now everything sounds very well balanced. But my suspicion is that when you start adding other instruments in, the kick and snare will gradually start to disappear, but you'll still be able to hear the toms. Trust me on this one
My suspicion is the overheads are already picking up a lot of the toms on their own, so they don't need very much help from the tom mics -- perhaps just a little bit to add some extra beef. Right now you've got the overheads picking up a lot of tom . . . and the tom mics picking up a lot of tom, so that's too much tom going on. Another option: you could cut a big chunk out of everything between 100-180 hz on the overhead mics, because that's where your toms are. That will allow you to get a better blend between the overhead and tom mics without allowing the toms to dominate the mix so much.
Definitely turn up the kick and snare, moreso on the kick.
You can't really tell from listening to the drums in solo mode, because right now everything sounds very well balanced. But my suspicion is that when you start adding other instruments in, the kick and snare will gradually start to disappear, but you'll still be able to hear the toms. Trust me on this one