First attempt at recording

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...this is a track i recorded for my friends band No Star Apathy. I recorded it using a Yamaha Md8, a nady 7 piece drum mic kit with a sm57 on snare, a sm57 on a 100 watt marshall combo for lead and rhythm guitar, and i recorded the bass direction into the md8. I transefered the tracks to my computer through an M-Audio mobile pre into Adobe Audition 2. Then i recorded the vocals using an MXL 990 (im trying to save up for an sm7). I only got into recording 2 months ago and was wondering what you guys think. I spent less than 6 hours recording and mixing the track and im especially interested into some feedback with mixing the vocals.

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...this is a track i recorded for my friends band No Star Apathy. I recorded it using a Yamaha Md8, a nady 7 piece drum mic kit with a sm57 on snare, a sm57 on a 100 watt marshall combo for lead and rhythm guitar, and i recorded the bass direction into the md8. I transefered the tracks to my computer through an M-Audio mobile pre into Adobe Audition 2. Then i recorded the vocals using an MXL 990 (im trying to save up for an sm7). I only got into recording 2 months ago and was wondering what you guys think. I spent less than 6 hours recording and mixing the track and im especially interested into some feedback with mixing the vocals.

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I'm listening in phones right now but the initial feeling i get is that the drums are way in the background and the guitars are upfront pretty much..
Sounds like the mixing needs to be worked on otherwise the actual recording material to my ears sounds kinda decent!
So a better mix and it can be a really good demorecording i think!
Nice work for only recording in 2months!
 
thanks for the advice...im going to push the guitars back a little and bring the drums closer...ill post a new mix when im finished
 
heres the newly mixed version...i brought the drums out more (especially the bass drum) and i tinkered around with the vocals a little more

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man, this is hard. The timing and singing and playing and the song itself suck so bad that I can't even focus on the recording.

Good luck, lol.
 
wow im glad to see i got such constructive criticism from a father. ive only been doing this for two months and wanted to learn how to better the mix, not have the band im recording criticized because its a rough recording we did in under two hours. your comment was an ignorant waste of my time.
 
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man, this is hard. The timing and singing and playing and the song itself suck so bad that I can't even focus on the recording.

Good luck, lol.
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I think comments like this deserves a warning and if done again..A ban..
But thats just me..
We are here to help eachother not bashing and talking crap..
 
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wow im glad to see i got such constructive criticism from a father. ive only been doing this for two months and wanted to learn how to better the mix, not have the band im recording criticized because its a rough recording we did in under two hours. your comment was an ignorant waste of my time.
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Look man, I've given hundreds of hours of my time in this clinic over the past 5 years. I've learned a lot here, and I've taught a lot here. What I said wasn't a slam at you, it was a comment on the absolute lack of attention to detail taken by the band, but if you're going to be a baby about it, fine.

I HONESTLY THINK that the recording of this band is a complete and total waste of your time, and critiqueing how you could make that p.o.s. better is a waste of mine.

The most constructive thing any budding home engineer can learn is to start with good source material. You failed to do that. The rest is just turd polishing, so learn from what I said.
 
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I think comments like this deserves a warning and if done again..A ban..
But thats just me..
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Yeah, it IS just you. I'll cut you some slack since you've been here a grand total of about ten minutes, but we moderate ourselves here, and we don't appreciate crybabies. It takes guts to post material in a completely unmoderated forum.

It also takes guts to speak the truth.
 
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too bad i wasnt asking if recording this band would be worth my while. if you dont want to spend time giving me tips why bother posting your ignorant comments at all? i dont see how anybody could could get any sort of help from such a condescending jerk. the rhythm might be a little spotty in places but im using this as practice for mixing and recording techniques. dont criticize something just because its not the generic rehashed redneck crap you put out. dont waste my time again.
 
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too bad i wasnt asking if recording this band would be worth my while. if you dont want to spend time giving me tips why bother posting your ignorant comments at all?
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I absolutely gave you a tip...you're just too ignorant to understand it.

A lot of us work very hard at this "hobby." What I do may be redneck crap to you, but I've at least worked pretty hard on it before I waste anybody's time asking for critiques. See, to me, I don't care if I'm listening to metal or country or trance or bluegrass or anything else in here...if somebody has taken the time to try to produce some music, I'll give it my best shot at helping.

There was no effort here...you just want people to tell you how to make something better that really cannot be improved after the faders.

And now that you've moved on to personal insults instead of focusing on the craft, I'll kindly tell you to go fuck yourself. Hack.

Here's your fucking tip. Hit "mute" on all tracks.
 
Aaaannnnd. If you want another tip, check your reputation comments.
 
seeing you're a hick, im suprised you know how to read, let alone use a computer, but i believe you missed the part about not wasting my time. put your white hood back on and head back to your white power convention. how's that for personal?
 
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seeing you're a hick, im suprised you know how to read, let alone use a computer, but i believe you missed the part about not wasting my time. put your white hood back on and head back to your white power convention. how's that for personal?
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Ummmm, none of that has anything to do with Chris personally. He is a very intelligent, well educated man - not to mention he knows his shit about recording.

As far as the song, I have to agree with everyone here, it really needs to be re-tracked. Get the timing at least close, or keep re-tracking till you do. In spots, it seems like they are not even playing the same song. Otherwise, you need to do a HELLUVA lot of editing.......
 
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Ummmm, none of that has anything to do with Chris personally. He is a very intelligent, well educated man - not to mention he knows his shit about recording.

As far as the song, I have to agree with everyone here, it really needs to be re-tracked. Get the timing at least close, or keep re-tracking till you do. In spots, it seems like they are not even playing the same song. Otherwise, you need to do a HELLUVA lot of editing.......
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If I were you, I'd listen to NL5. The NL in his username stands for "Northern Lights Recording Studio". I think he has a clue.

As far as Chris Harris and your war with him, I think you should have gotten to know him a bit better before you went off and called him what you did. Besides being a pretty good musician and a fair contributer to this site, he is also a lawyer. I think you have to be able to read to get that far. And I don't think being a "hick" or any other libel you put here changes that.
 
ok, ok... EASY, lol.

Props to you for opening this thread back up. You're a kid, and my first comment was too harsh. Honestly, I didn't think you'd go off like that since it wasn't your song or your band, but still, the last thing I want to do is to run somebody off who has the guts to put their work up for public comment; especially an 18 year old.

Of course your recording sucks, just like all of our first recordings sucked, but it's all part of a huuuuge learning curve; you sure didn't get any help from the band.

I very sincerely apologize. Just try to stay motivated to do better.

At least your thread didn't drop off the front page with no replies, right? :D
 
This thread makes me feel cleansed.


......it's been reported.......
 
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This may not be any better....just trying to make things a bit more even.

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Wow... just wow.

Okay, Im listening on laptop speakers right now, but it doesn't sound as bad as some might say, considering how little experience you have.

I agree with the timing issue. You need to really track the band rough, and then overdub tracks individually to get timing down right. As for the quality of the song? I don't know... not a big metal fan (or whatever this heavy rock / metal sound is being called these days)...

So all in all, not a bad first showing, and it definitely takes balls to post around here without a lot of experience and research first put into the process. Not sure how this thread went so downhill so fast, but keep trying, you'll get there with enough practice and experimentation (both in performance and recording)
 
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