External Soundcard queries

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Hi there,

Right.... I have searched and discovered some literature on the web concerning External Sound Cards (ESCs) but the elusive holy grail of out-board digiaudio- the one ESC to satisfy my every recording need- remains elusive, so I am left trying to piece together all the jumble of crap in my head... Do you know what I mean?? Do ya?!

[1]The Behringer BCA 2000- what's up there? Is there some surreal parallel dimension in which this card doesn't exist that I keep slipping into? Where are the reviews? The little snatches of info I can glean from the backwaters of otherwise-related threads are more irritating than anything else.
Are the drivers bad? If so which drivers? Midi or Audio or both? What's wrong with them? Are there ANY signs of new drivers?

This is a bit of a warm-up rant- just to make it hard for people to reply coherently. Please consider it point [1]. In fact I just added that at the top.

[2] I am using a high spec laptop- not engineered for digi-recording but perfectly good at laying down tracks. I originally bought a Sound Blaster Audigy NX2 and in my naivety assumed it would be fine- one sound card being much the same as the next right? Well..... I'VE HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH IT!... (anger suppressed).
Believe me, I know all the probs Creative are renowned for… NOW! I wish I had known at the start. But the thing I find the most incredible is that- in all honesty the nx2 does not come with ASIO drivers for USB- it supports ASIO II!!! but it does not come endowed with the necessary software to actually use it.
When I download the latest drivers from Creative, the ASIO driver appears in Cubase SX but a 'Cannot be loaded' message appears.
I downloaded the KX Project, the buggering thing doesn't work. WHY?
Can I get ASIO drivers for the NX2 to at least tide me over until I get a better card?

[3] Edirol ua25 would do me really, or something similar like the Terratec Phase 26. Something USB 1. Not state of the art at £150 pounds but tried and tested, simple and hardwearing.
But I don't know...... little devils speak in my ear. Maybe this sort of price range is too high for what you actually get. I mean USB 1 isn't USB 2 is it? And isn't USB 2 the thing to get? And don't get me started on firewire.....

[4] Well having opened that can of worms... Firewire. The M-Audio Firewire Audiophile for instance for £150. My laptop, though, doesn't have a Firewire port- at least I don't think so..... To be honest I don't think I actually know what one looks like, having only seen grainy pictures taken from a distance and generally the whole thing seems shrouded in a lot of mystery. Firewire is the clitoris of the digiaudio world- for me anyway.
Nothing firewire is listed in my hardware profiles, so is PCMCIA Firewire OKAY?? They seem fine but it’s that annoying sticky out bit you get with them. You know? I'll always be snagging the protruding bit and cursing and that alone puts me off.

[5] And how do PCMCIA sound cards compare to External devices when it comes to electrical hum? The close circuitry issue is what lead me to seek out external cards in the first place. Am I correct that External is best for notebooks?

Basically I want something to lay down some tracks at little cost. About £150. Ideally I’d want 5-6 simultaneous Inputs to leave scope for expansion but realistically 2-3. To be honest I'd probably only use 1 or 2 but I get so caught up in spec comparisons that I become an all or nothing kinda guy.
Is the Ediroal AU25 worth it at the same price as the Audiophile?

Thanks in advance
Tony
 
Try the Presonus Firebox, M-Audio FastTrack USB, M-Audio Firewire Solo or Edirol UA-25. I am pretty sure these are external sound card options
 
The KX project drivers were for the SBLIVE card only, not their laptop card (a completely different animal. Personally: Stay away from Creative products except for gaming.) Try ASIO4ALL instead....

"Laptops" and "little cost" are usually mutally exclusive. You are connecting to a closed architecture so it 'ain't gonna be cheap.

I'm using a Motu828mkII with my PC laptop via Firewire with zero problems. But that's a bit more than your stated budget...
 
I mean USB 1 isn't USB 2 is it?
Despite all the hype and blather about USB 1.0/1.1 not being fast enough, it would have been a MIRACULOUS thing to have a decade ago. And it hasn't gotten any slower - it's still just fine for recording one or two tracks at a time

My advice is go with the EdirolUA25. Or this one. I've got one of these and have found it to be trouble-free and well up to the job.
 
Thanks- Something to report - Please keep responding

Thanks so far.

I tried ASIO4All TimOBrien and can only be pleased with the result. I used the drivers in Cubase SX with my Audigy 2NX that I've come to loath so and the latency jumped down from 110 to 11ms!!!! playback and record. I haven't had the chance to try recording yet, so I can't be certain no nasty surprises are is store. Thanks TimOBrien, even if I was subjected to your flagrant SWANK....
'I'm using a Motu828mkII with my PC laptop via Firewire with zero problems. But that's a bit more than your stated budget...' Thanks man, you jammy bugger.

Thanks ssscientist for your perspective. I was trying to remind myeslf as I went along of exactly that point- imagine a TFT moniter a decade ago. Imagine a LASER MOUSE or a wireless 8mb broadband connection.

We are spoilt in this day and age and will be more so as time goes on. Undoubtably though we'll still be squabling over the finer details... Laptop vs Mini box. USB vs Firewall. Halflife vs Doom 3... Oh shut up!

I don't mean YOU shut up. I really need the feedback so please continue with your suggestions and don't be put off by my tangential ranting.
Tony
 
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