External Drums and Rythm/Loop

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1.Is there a way to record a live drum track with external drums and have it sent to the stereo rythm/loop? So I don't use two tracks right off the bat.

2.Do I have to use midi to do this?

3.If yes----------how...step by step

On a BR1180
 
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Hi Dumby

Deep questions. The answer: yes.

The Rhythm-Programmer/Loop track is really two mini "sequencers". By sequencer I mean a kind of automatic button-pushing-machine that is synchronized with the audio part of your recordings on other tracks. In the Rhythm Programmer part, the sequencer pushes the buttons to trigger a short sample of each drum "hit" at the appropriate times. Just like a drum machine. In the Loop part, the sequencer triggers longer samples of "audio recordings of anything you like" (but usually a bar or two of a recording of live drums). ["Midi" is just a standard system of storing and transmitting to other device this button-pushing timing information.]

In the BR machines you can also set the Rhythm/Loop track to be a stereo audio track, just like the others. Which you mention.

So you have 3 options:
1. record the audio of your live drums to a complete stereo audio track and forget the Rhythm/Loop sequencer. (I think you've got that sussed.)
2. record your live stereo drums to a stereo track pair (as in 1.), but then select whole measures of "good bits" that you want to loop. Extract those whole bar bits into the loop sequencer. You then set the Loop sequencer to play those loops over and over at the appropriate times.
3. convert your live drums to "midi" hit signals. For this you will need midi drums, or some sort of audio to midi convertor. Then on a PC, save these as a standard midi file, and import that file into the Rhythm Programmer sequencer on the Boss. These midi hit signals will then be used to trigger the BR's internal drums.

This doesn't tell you exactly how to do it, but if you understand the principles behind these processes the manual might make more sense.

aspiring
 
aspiring said:
In the BR machines you can also set the Rhythm/Loop track to be a stereo audio track, just like the others. Which you mention.


aspiring
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K, how do I set the functinon of turning my stereo/rythm loop into another double track? If this is true and this works you will have saved my life
 
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Dumby said:
K, how do I set the functinon of turning my stereo/rythm loop into another double track? If this is true and this works you will have saved my life
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Hey...I'm not sure I do saving lives. Too scary.

There is a little black button in the space between the track faders and the master fader. It's directly above the "Track Mute" button. It's called something like "Track mode select" or something.

Push it. You then cursor to where it says "Drums + LP". Turn the Jog Wheel to select either "Audio", "Drums + LP", or "Drums + Metronome". The default is "Drums + LP". Set it to "Audio". This is all from memory, so I might have the exact text wrong. But that's the general idea.

See you
aspiring
 
Ok Dumby. I think this is where you actually kill ME.

We've been discussing BR1200's a lot here and I thought you had one of them. But it's the 1180 you have. And I think you might not have that option. BR1200 and BR1600 do. I've never seen an 1180. It might not. If so, very sorry about that false excitement...
 
I was very mad at you for a while there but now...I think we should hug and make up
 
Phew! Hugs, or even "mad", are better than a stabbing :)

Guess you are left with chopping up your drum track and importing individual loops. Which would be OK. Get to choose the good bits. Keep them tight.

You know, if you chopped up the whole stereo drum track into bars, you could import each loop, sequence all that in the Loop sequencer (just play each loop once and move on to the next), and you would basically have the whole "extra" stereo track anyway. A lot of work though.

I better stop dreaming up possible solutions, or you might get mad again.

Have fun.
 
Cutting loops and what not for drums is great I guess if you're making rap music. I prefer to keep a one take live track with the drums, it retains the soul of my music and keeps it real! You know what I'm saying.
 
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