Eventide - WTF?

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Ok - just a plain dumb question on my part. As far as the Eventide family of hardware modules goes - are these pieces all that? I asked a pro engineer friend of mine about them, he claims they are a must. I just wanted to know what was so special about them. This may be too general a question, but what do they bring to the table? I don't mean to start some gearlust thread - I just wanted to know more about the stuff from those who use them. And some sound references would help too.
 
Eclipse thoughts

I am a new Eclipse owner (version 3.0). This unit is simply delicious (smooth, rich, silky, inspiring, etc.) What is comes down to in my mind is the pure musicality (editors liberty on new words) of effects. If you want to have effects that sit "around" your instrument, then you buy high end gear. Otherwise your effects tend to compete with the original sound in my opinion. So, that said, Eventide units are not the only way to get that kind of sound. One software plug-in that rivals Eventide and Lexicon IMHO is Wizooverb2. Talk about incredible sounding reverb! But the Eventide unit really is for special effects that combine pitch shifting, delay, and verb into one patch. You "can" live without one. But when you get one, you won't be disappointed.
Tobias
 
Well eventide is a name that comes up quite often in pro audio.


For the moment, a good reference would be 311's last two albums under producer Ron Saint Germain.


He runs his mixes through an Eventide Harmonizer (reinforcing the subharmonic qualities of the mix) to give it a "live" feeling.

Just an example of the millions of possbilities accessible to stuff like this.
 
Is the Eventide responsible for that real shimmering vocal quality in pro mixes? Granted that can be a combination of verb and such. Which would be the most affordable model, and would it be easily intergrated with my ProTools MBox?
 
Dr. Jeep said:
Is the Eventide responsible for that real shimmering vocal quality in pro mixes? Granted that can be a combination of verb and such. Which would be the most affordable model, and would it be easily intergrated with my ProTools MBox?
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Well it's not the Eventide alone. It's just another handy tool to have. About the Mbox, couldn't tell ya. Ive never had one.
 
Eventide typically has very good, forward-thinking products. The Eventide Harmonizer series has been classic since the line debuted in the 70's, and it has continued to grow more and more powerful.
 
Eventide has some pitch effects that I haven't heard ANY other company come close to emulating.

Their reverbs are very dense and bold! Almost like TC verbs, but with maybe a tad less "sizzle" overall.

Their delays are high quality, and have a good "character".

The pitch shifting is about as tight as it gets. It is also very rich sounding in comparison to other companies that have tried to get into the pitch shifting market.

The Hamonizer boxes are MORE than just good pitch shifters. Every effect they do is much better quality than any low end effects processor box will do.

I think you can pick up H3000 for around $1200 now. For what is does, it is more than worth the money!
 
Dr. Jeep said:
Does Wizooverb work with ProTools LE?
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Not certain, here is the link: WizooVerb

The Eclips is the new version of the H3000 with double the horsepower. I plug in, I strum, and my jaw usually drops with awe at the depth and clarity.

Love the idea of running a mix through it. Going to try that soon. Wonder what patch he started with?
 
Tobias said:
Wonder what patch he started with?
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Haha, thats about the time where he says, "yeah, is this interview over? I gotta head out, man...seriously".
 
Ford Van said:
I think you can pick up H3000 for around $1200 now. For what is does, it is more than worth the money!
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This, from the "Fletcher of crap gear"????

That good huh?

Does it do Reverb's and stuff too?

What about the Eclipse?
 
Ford Van said:
Read my post again.

I actually get to use some pretty nice gear whenever I have something worth doing with it.

http://www.opal-studio.com
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OK, so I can't read...

Getting vocals to sound "pro" are still my biggest struggle. Might have to check one of these out.
 
NL5 said:
Getting vocals to sound "pro" are still my biggest struggle. Might have to check one of these out.
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Really, what don't you like about your vocals now? (whatever it may be)
 
Just turn on your radio to the local morning show. Chances are most of the radio stations in your market are using Eventide to produce ads, promos, special announcements, etc.

Pretty much broadcast industry standard.
 
LeeRosario said:
Haha, thats about the time where he says, "yeah, is this interview over? I gotta head out, man...seriously".
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Yes, sometimes I dream....

Anyway, there is a "default" stereo simulator and expansion patch as a starting point in the Eclipse. I'll experiment this weekend.
 
NL5 said:
OK, so I can't read...

Getting vocals to sound "pro" are still my biggest struggle. Might have to check one of these out.
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I find what really helps on vocals is to layer reverbs. Try layering three different reverbs and see if that suits you. Of course, you have to adjust the reverbs to match in certain ways, but the difference of tone between different boxes can really help.
 
Layered Reverbs

SonicAlbert said:
I find what really helps on vocals is to layer reverbs. Try layering three different reverbs and see if that suits you. Of course, you have to adjust the reverbs to match in certain ways, but the difference of tone between different boxes can really help.
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When you say layer the reverbs - do you mean creating 3 seperate busses with seperate verbs - then route the vocal in various amounts to each bus? Or do you mean setting up 1 bus with three stacked verbs? I kind of do the first way now but only with 2 - a tight Room verb (which I am coming to appreciate more and more because it doesn't get muddy) and a nice plate for some trail.

On the same topic - do you have rule of thumb for applying verb throughout a mix so that it adds body but not wet mud prevelant in amateur recording?
 
The eventide reverbs are sparkly, just stunning.

Except when HARMAN was cross polinating their apps, noone even had a harmonizer coming close to the Eventide

Pathetically I cant even think of ONE harmonizer plugin good OR bad for the DX and VST fx.

The eventide, especially the gated stuff on drums is unreal

It kills me, I have a DSP4000 within arms reach, yet I spend all day dicking with plugins for reverb because they are so much more convenient. A 386 could smoke the 4000 in processing power, yet our dx and VST code suck belligerantly for the most part. Whats wrong with this world?
 
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