event asp8 owners or anyone help!!!

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OK, so I finally saved up and made the decision to go out and buy a pair of Event ASP8s. So, I go buy them brand new come home and hook them up and run into 2 MAJOR problems.

First, when I go to power them on, the right speaker lets out a quiet POP from the woofer, and it kind of sinks the woofer in a little bit. Kind of like it was blown out or something? But not loud at all. I try fiddling with all my wires to see if I hooked up something wrong or what the hell is going on, but everything is set up perfect. So, I switch back to my old cheap Events and they work fine. So I swap the ASP8s back in and it does it again...each time I power on, the right monitor let's out a small POP, nothing that loud or anything, but the woofer noticably moves and seems to continue moving ever so slightly, you can barely notice.

So, I'm like OK whatever, I'm taking these things back, but I want to see what they sound like, or if they even work. By the way, I fiddled around with the sensitivity in like every possible position with no change in what I described. So I pop in some music, and both monitors seem to work just fine. I played around with settings more to see if that had anything to do with anything and it didn't. The monitors both work...but they are both, well, very quiet. Like my old 5 inch cheap Events were significantly louder. I thought these ASP8s were supposed to be able to get LOUD. I turned them to 75% volume and they both were just barely what I would call loud. At 100% volume they would still not be all that loud.

So I unplugged the right speaker since it seemed to have something wrong with it, and I noticed it was very hot on the back plate. The left one wasnt hot at all. So I tested the sound with just the one left speaker which seemed to work fine, but it also could not get very loud...just a moderate volume, bordering loud.

I mean, from what I heard the speakers were very detailed, just not even close to as loud as I was thinking, but there must be something wrong with at least one of them, maybe both?

Any thoughts??
 
i'd call Event and see what they have to say or take em back and get another pair. mine get VERY loud and there are no pops when turning on or off.

cheers,
wade
 
well, I called their tech support and we did some troubleshooting but, to no avail. He thinks I got a bad set of speakers, although both he and I agreed it was extremely unlikely to get TWO bad monitors...very weird.

I think I'm just gonna take em back and stick with my old Events...
 
its just mass production. quality control can only test so many, a percentage.
some get thru the line to the stores to the customer.

any product, any company....except maybe a boutique outfit that does small quantities, and can check every tiny detail...even then Mesa Boogie, top notch companies have a % of issues.

I did the same with a certain guitar amplifier, after finding defects on several of them at different stores at different dates....I changed my mind.

My friend, unknowingly said "maybe if you went thru the pile of them you'd find a good one."

hahahaa...pretty classic statement for todays global massive production lines.

Take it back, and ask for a discount on the next set to pay for your troubles and gas, is one option. er...and try them out in the store!
 
Yeah, I think you're right on target. I took them back completely set to just get my money back and live with small inadaquate speakers, but they totally wanted to barter and gave me 50% off the price and told me they'd switch them out with new ones.

I really wanted to return them and get some other gear, but that's quite a good deal, so I did it...havent had a chance to test out the new ones yet...but at least this will let me know if there is something wrong with my set up or if it was just a bad pair. I still might return them, I'm suffering some major buyers remorse, but I have 30 days to think about it :D
 
man, lemme tell you--once you get those asp8's up and running, you'll hear the difference between then and your older events in about, oh, 30 seconds. :p assuming, of course, that your room is in good shape. ;)

the asp8's have made my workflow and mixing process SO much more smooth that it's not even funny. and i THOUGHT i was making decent mixes before......but the second i pulled up one of my previous "believed to be good" mixes, my jaw hit the floor in amazement of all the stuff i wasn't hearing before.

but don't take my word for it--let your ears be your guide.


cheers,
wade
 
mrface2112 said:
man, lemme tell you--once you get those asp8's up and running, you'll hear the difference between then and your older events in about, oh, 30 seconds. :p assuming, of course, that your room is in good shape. ;)

cheers,
wade
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Well, that was actually part of my reluctance...my room is not treated at all. It hasn't seemed to created huge problems, I mean I've come up with mixes that sound fine, it just takes a lot of burning and listening on other systems. I should probably make a post in the studio building section to find out what it would take to test and/or improve my room...I'm still trying to figure out how to use that google designer thing so I could post a diagram of my basement.

After all, I don't know how much good these ASP8s will really do considering I have NO room treatment...plus I know how my old cheap events work.
Oh well...decisions decisions.
 
the "HR land" monitor.
most don't have big mains for tracking and mixing, we don't have the large mains with precision response and clarity.

most have one Monitor pair from GuiatrMartCenterZounds?right?...

this one pair needs to do everything!! Tracking, Mixing, Mastering...and also translate to Ipod earbuds.

I think mixing ability of the monitors is how well are you used to the sound and can learn to mix on them over the years. Familiarity, is a acquired partnership between you and the monitors....can you make it translate to "average joe ipod earbuds" kind of thing...on this note I agree, its not good to change all the time.

but TRACKING, thats where you need to be able to hear whats going down, the details, clarity, tones.... IMO....thats where the BEST MONITOR from GuiatarCenterMartZounds comes in.

Mastering, well....most pics I see its huge Towers and an entirely different thing again....never done that. But they almost seem more like hi-end HiFi in tuned rooms with a different arsenal of gear. 2-track gear. Left and Right...



so "HR LAND", expecting one set of monitors to do everything is pretty high expectations.

IMO, get the best you possibly can afford, up to a point you can't hear a difference then its a waste of money....and may be the room needs some $$$$ thrown at it instead.

or EAR WAX...never underestimate EAR WAX mucking the sound up. :p
 
rgraves said:
After all, I don't know how much good these ASP8s will really do considering I have NO room treatment...plus I know how my old cheap events work.
Oh well...decisions decisions.
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well, that's kind of my point too......i would suspect that even without treatment, the asp8's will help you get there a lot faster. i used to burn test mix after test mix after test mix with my old monitors. these days i do one mix, check it from a couple spots in the room (there's one place by the door that acts as a bass trap and is a perfect spot to detect boominess), and burn it to disc.

rarely these days do i need to burn more than one "test" cd. usually the first one i burn is 95% of the way there and it just needs a tweak or two and that's it. the money saved on blank cds has probably just about covered the expense of the asp8's. :D :p

but it kinda sounds like you've got regrets about having spent that much money on the asp8's. if you're having second thoughts at this point (rather than being excited about your purchase), you probably will end up regretting ever having purchased them.


cheers,
wade
 
Well, actually I got the new Events all set up, and these ones work great! There was CERTAINLY something wrong with the previous 2. So, now that I have a correctly working pair, I have tested out some mixes with them. I notice they are MUCH clearer than the old TR5s I had. Quite nice, easy to notice a lot of things about the mix that I was missing before.

The only thing I'm still not sure if I like or not, is the bass frequencies. They seem a little under powered...just a little. It could be a number of factors though: Where I'm sitting, or the room, or how I have the monitors positioned.

What is the correct way to measure the distance for monitor placement? I know it should be about an equilateral triangle, is that measured from the end of the monitors, or the middle of the cone??

Is there a test CD or something to measure the frequency response of my room? Probably something on Ethan Winer's site?
 
if you are hearing a lack of bass from the ASP8's, it's your room. you need bass trapping and lots of it. go read up on Ethan's site. the asp8's have fantastic bass response.

the asp8's are really more geared towards being "mid field" monitors rather than near fields. i've got mine setup in a 4ft equilateral triangle, which seems to work. less than that, and my stereo image collapses. it doesn't really matter where you measure your distance from, just as long as you're consistent in doing so.

they have a VERY wide sweet spot, which makes it very easy to adjust a piece of rack outboard and hear what's going on while you adjust.

and it'll take you several months to actually learn them......but the biggest win that i've gotten out of them is that when a mix sounds great on them, it'll sound great everywhere else.


cheers,
wade
 
You could be sitting in a room null which is kind of like a void. Also, the bass image does not really get focused until you are 4-5 feet away. Push back your chair a bit.
 
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