EQ frequencies help

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Hi Guys I have finished my "home" mix and did a Master with LANDR (online tool for mastering)

I have noticed that when I listen to the track from my headphones it seems quite ok, then when I listen it from the car I can hear a bit too much High Frequencies that are somehow disturbing, comparing it with other songs from some similar artist.

The high frrquencies come from the guitars, do you usually Low Pass Filter (cut highs) the guitars? If yes how much roughly?

Could someone be very kind to have a listen and tell me if the track is very high in frequencies? or if there is any disturbing frequency on the guitars? or too muddy? I have cut some mids around 700 hertz already, Thanks

Here's the track, please listen to the last distorted part.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gWxTEkOuU4A6LNvrSHBLZu-K_-MIy8aF/view?usp=sharing
 
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I mostly do not HPF the guitars. But I will depending on how they sound. It just depends. There will always be a set of speakers where the mix just won’t sound the way you want it to. That’s life, unfortunately.
 
That's not the point I think your mix should sound good on different speakers, that's the point
 
Svemir said:
That's not the point I think your mix should sound good on different speakers, that's the point
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There are thousands of different speakers—there’s no way your mix is going to sound the way you want it to on all of them. I’m not saying that they won’t translate and sound good, but they definitely won’t sound the way you want to. Mixing on one pair of speakers may have a detrimental effect on how it sounds on another. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t try but rather to curb expectations.

The guitars sound fine to me. Just one question: there seems to be some very slight buzzing happening in the background. You can hear it most in the intro. Know what that might be from? Doesn’t seem to be noticeable on speakers, but I can hear it clearly on headphones.
 
I can hear, I have no idea, maybe some radio interference when I was recording, no idea how to fix this now, try with some noise suppressor maybe
 
Svemir said:
I can hear, I have no idea, maybe some radio interference when I was recording, no idea how to fix this now, try with some noise suppressor maybe
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It’s not too bad. I have a grounding issue in my house and I get a tiny bit of noise from my guitars and SM57. If I orient them a certain way, the noise gets reduced.
 
Automatic mastering software (no ears) will often boost up highs (for clarity), the trick is to know which instruments/voice will be affected most by this, and adjust the mix accordingly (or better yet, don't use 'automatic' mastering software!)
I don't hear the high frequencies you are talking about (small box-type computer speakers). But whatever the backing pads/synths you are using on that clip seem very distorted to me.
 
mjbphotos said:
Automatic mastering software (no ears) will often boost up highs (for clarity), the trick is to know which instruments/voice will be affected most by this, and adjust the mix accordingly (or better yet, don't use 'automatic' mastering software!)
I don't hear the high frequencies you are talking about (small box-type computer speakers). But whatever the backing pads/synths you are using on that clip seem very distorted to me.
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It's distorted because they are distorted fuzzy guitars! I used the big muff, that should be like that. :D
But maybe the high frequencies in the fuzzy guitars are a bit disturbing to me, I put a low pass filter at 8K hertz (high cut) and used another reference track, it sound more obscure but I don't hear that disturbing high end anymore
 
As I said I'm not an expert, but i cut the high frequencies at mix level, everything over 8k hertz, at mix level nothing is clipping, there might be some peaks in some guitar tracks at maximun -2dbs


It might be possible though that LANDR AI algorithm pushed the high end too much because I gave him a reference track. Now I have changed the mastering, seems better to me, what do you think?



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-YJaSKiP_fOO8JcKO_94QDOqAduLt1lJ/view?usp=sharing
 
Svemir said:
As I said I'm not an expert, but i cut the high frequencies at mix level, everything over 8k hertz, at mix level nothing is clipping, there might be some peaks in some guitar tracks at maximun -2dbs


It might be possible though that LANDR AI algorithm pushed the high end too much because I gave him a reference track. Now I have changed the mastering, seems better to me, what do you think?



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-YJaSKiP_fOO8JcKO_94QDOqAduLt1lJ/view?usp=sharing
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Link doesn't work.
 
CrowsofFritz said:
It’s not too bad. I have a grounding issue in my house and I get a tiny bit of noise from my guitars and SM57. If I orient them a certain way, the noise gets reduced.
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Ya know, that sm57 is a single coil right? A humbucking microphone could help. When I turn up the mic gain with a senn609 it has less noise than a 57.

If it is house ground, get a outlet checker. See if the light is green.

If the ground issue is instrument or input stack side, TRY A WIRELESS UNIT.
 
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If the self noise of a 57 becomes a problem while micing an amplifier, you really need to turn the amp up. I've been using 57s since 1979 and I have never had a problem with the self noise of the Mic, ever.
 
Farview said:
If the self noise of a 57 becomes a problem while micing an amplifier, you really need to turn the amp up. I've been using 57s since 1979 and I have never had a problem with the self noise of the Mic, ever.
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It’s not self noise. It’s a buzz type noise. A buzz that goes away if I orient the mic a certain way. As I said, it’s a grounding issue.
 
Svemir said:
Seems better now, Do you notice anything wrong in the frequencies? Apart from the kick too big, need to high pass more.
Maybe I just have a doubt with the guitar mids, seems a bit "Nasal"

Mastered

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No, the link you provided in post #9 still doesn't work, but these ones do.

I listened to the 'mastered' one first. I found the lead guitar very harsh at times. The 'Mix' version had quite a bit of low end build-up at times - easily attributable if you are mixing with headphones that don't give a good idea of the overall spectrum balance.
 
mjbphotos said:
No, the link you provided in post #9 still doesn't work, but these ones do.

I listened to the 'mastered' one first. I found the lead guitar very harsh at times. The 'Mix' version had quite a bit of low end build-up at times - easily attributable if you are mixing with headphones that don't give a good idea of the overall spectrum balance.
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Ok thanks, do you think the mix version is better than the master? This is what a guy from forum told me, the master is too harsh, and the drums disappeared in the master. Also around minute 4 the instruments are not alligned perfectly, meaning a bit out of time?
 
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