?? Egg Cartons ??

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Someone suggested putting these up on my walls of my home studio (which is really just my tiny little computer room/office at this point), but it seems to me that the sounds going to go through them, hit the wall, and more or less get trapped in there, or just make no real difference. Any thoughts?
 
The ONLY thing egg cartons will do is make your studio more flammable (as in call the fire department...)
Wont do a thing for your sound.
 
Use the search button and look for 'Egg' in the Studio Build forum; see what people have to say about it. You'll not only find Tim's response, but suggestions on how to treat your room.
 
I don't understand why people continually ask this question.
 
Chili said:
Because they don't browse or search before asking questions. aaaand I'll leave it at that.
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ya' know about that ......

I often do a search on the site for stuff and find the search results essentially useless. It simply doesn't do a focused search and I'll get zillions of results and most of them seem to have nothing to do with what i searched for.
 
Lt. Bob said:
ya' know about that ......

I often do a search on the site for stuff and find the search results essentially useless. It simply doesn't do a focused search and I'll get zillions of results and most of them seem to have nothing to do with what i searched for.
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While this is true, it doesn't take much effort on searching to come up with the answer that egg crates aren't such a great idea. :D
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
I don't understand why people continually ask this question.
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Myriad_Rocker said:
While this is true, it doesn't take much effort on searching to come up with the answer that egg crates aren't such a great idea. :D
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Just as a complete aside, some massive hits in the 60s were recorded in studios with egg cartons on the walls. The Rolling Stones first couple of albums were recorded in a studio that had egg cartons on the walls !
Which isn't to excuse the fact that they're pretty useless (the egg cartons, not the Stones' LPs). But the idea persists and wasn't just made up out of thin air or as an urban myth. Back in the day, people really believed they either soundproofed or helped the properties of the sound. Of course, they also believed drummers couldn't write songs, women couldn't play bass and bands couldn't produce themselves......
 
grimtraveller said:
Just as a complete aside, some massive hits in the 60s were recorded in studios with egg cartons on the walls. The Rolling Stones first couple of albums were recorded in a studio that had egg cartons on the walls !
Which isn't to excuse the fact that they're pretty useless (the egg cartons, not the Stones' LPs). .
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And they were probably the first to realize that egg cartons were useless. :eek: :D
 
I would think that because of the shape, egg cartons would provide "some" diffusion. Probably more if they were made out of a harder substance or sprayed. I wonder if anyone has done a test - even just for a goof or to blow up the myth. I do know the idea has been around a long time. I saw it many years ago in some guy's basement room. We've come a long way.


lou
 
The guy that suggested egg cartons should have his ass removed.

Don't ever let that dumbfuck in your home studio again.

I don't care if he is the lead singer!
 
c7sus said:
The guy that suggested egg cartons should have his ass removed.
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That would get kinda messy, doncha think? :confused:


:D

I'm kinda in that same boat as Lou. Due to the shape, I could see it as some sort of diffusion and have thought about doin a test just for my own curiosity.
But since I'm a lazy bat rastard, I didn't.
I'll just stay with what works. ;)
 
I have way more beer cans that egg cartons, will they work?
 
Dogbreath said:
That would get kinda messy, doncha think? :confused:


:D

I'm kinda in that same boat as Lou. Due to the shape, I could see it as some sort of diffusion and have thought about doin a test just for my own curiosity.
But since I'm a lazy bat rastard, I didn't.
I'll just stay with what works. ;)
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there's absolutely no doubt that egg cartons would affect the sound in the room. Basically absolutely anything you put on the walls will. It just won't take care of the problems that people think it will correct.
If I had time and money I'd set up a studio with ALL the things that people say suck and get perfectly fine recordings out of it.

I get good results out of cheap gear that people opine will make not only your recordings sound bad but will make all your bought CD's sound bad just by osmosis and I get good results in my untreated room (although shelves and shelves of records is a decent room treatment actually).

The more I read on sites like HR the funnier it gets to me because everyone seems to feel that there are hard and fast rules as to how you do things and the slightest deviation from them dooms you to crappy recordings.

Same thing with guitar amps ............... everyone has their opinion and , to them, that opinion is carved in stone. No non-tube amp can sound good ..... or no modeler can sound good or only Les Pauls sound like rock etc. etc.
If you put even a tiny bit of foam on your walls the house will catch on fire and you'll die ................. if you get a tiny shock when your lips touch the mic panic because you're about to die ..... if your house or club is ungrounded make a will because you're about to die ....... if your new squeeze's ex comes in the club with a gun panic because you're about to die .......... oh wait, that last one's true!

:D
 
Since when do you need diffusion in a tiny room that most likely resembles a cube???
 
Lt. Bob said:
If you put even a tiny bit of foam on your walls the house will catch on fire and you'll die ................. if you get a tiny shock when your lips touch the mic panic because you're about to die ..... if your house or club is ungrounded make a will because you're about to die ....... if your new squeeze's ex comes in the club with a gun panic because you're about to die .......... oh wait, that last one's true!

:D
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+1

I could be totally off base here, but in the movie "Hustle and Flow" they staple drink cup holders(like the kind they give at McD's drive thru) to the walls and claim something silly like "poor man's soundproofing", I think it is little bits like that, which perpetuate the egg carton myth.....

Truth of the matter, you will acheive much better results, if acoustic TREATMENT is what you are looking for, by using some well placed packing blankets, or just blankets or towels or the like, to knock down reflections.
 
Lt. Bob said:
there's absolutely no doubt that egg cartons would affect the sound in the room.................Same thing with guitar amps ............... everyone has their opinion and , to them, that opinion is carved in stone. No non-tube amp can sound good ..... or no modeler can sound good or only Les Pauls sound like rock etc. etc.
If you put even a tiny bit of foam on your walls the house will catch on fire and you'll die .................

:D
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You're right, everything in a room changes and shapes the acoustics of the room.

There is a pretty definitive difference between these two points though. You want your guitar rig to sound *good*. You want you're mixing room to sound *accurate*. Good is a subjective thing and everyone gets their opinion. But, accurate is very much bound by physics. The goal of treating a room would be to create a space where your speakers (more) accurately represent the music you're playing through them so that you can make good mixing choices. You're working against reverberation and standing wave issues that are a function of the room dimensions and materials. So, its not subjective; the problems are definable and the solutions are measurable- and some materials simply are a better solution.

And as for foam, I don't knock it because a piece will cause you're house to spontaneously combust :D. I knock it because its simply isn't the best tool to make a small room more accurate. And to make things worse, you can get the stuff that actually WORKS for the same $ as the foam. But, the marketing machine presses on...
 
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