efx for triple recti

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ive been trying to find a good combination to go with my triple rectifier...

ive tried

Boss super Overdrive SD-1
danelectro black coffee
rp-150 ( for noise gate,eq)

i tried the rp150 efx - and it just wasnt right.... none of the distortions just sounded right

Ibanez Tube Screamer - ( this stays )

they seem to make it muddy

what do y'all use - maybe i should go with a rackmount efx ?

thanks
 
Why do you need an overdrive with a triple rectifier? I thought those things had gobs of gain by themselves.
 
i dont - ive been trying different stuff- yeah the rec has enuff gain...

just testing stuff out
 
Yeah what Zaphod said, and besides, The SD1 is just a poor man's TS9. I can see the need for a noise gate, try a Boss NS2 or ISP Decimator - both will colour your sound to some extent though. I'd be looking more at modulation effects if you think you need some.
 
jrhoden said:
- yeah the rec has enuff gain...

just testing stuff out
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Got it. I would expect that an overdrive pedal on top of all that saturation would sound just too saturated.

I agree with Telepaul - look for some modulation and delay FX.
 
Zaphod B said:
Why do you need an overdrive with a triple rectifier? I thought those things had gobs of gain by themselves.
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It's the Andy Sneap approach - you're not looking for more gain, exactly, but rather you set the TS to about unity gain on the level, and the drive either off or VERY low. What it does is sort of pre-EQ's your signal and adds the TINIEST bit of grit before it even hits the preamp.

I've got a modded TS9 that I use mostly just for SRV blues stuff, but when I'm tracking heavy rhythms I generally put it out in front of my Rectoverb. It really DOES give you a slightly tighter, more focused bass response. It's also kind of fun to mix tracks that have been boosted like this with ones that haven't - you're not hearing a huge change when you A/B the two, but somehow mixing them (and this could even just be that I normally just doubletrack yet when I tried this I was playing back four tracks) seemed to make the guitars sound seriously thick.

I should try to post some clips, but I doubt I'll have time tonight, and I take off for the holidays first thing in the morning... :/
 
DrewPeterson7 said:
It's the Andy Sneap approach - you're not looking for more gain, exactly, but rather you set the TS to about unity gain on the level, and the drive either off or VERY low. What it does is sort of pre-EQ's your signal and adds the TINIEST bit of grit before it even hits the preamp.
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That makes a lot of sense - you're just pushing the preamp stage a bit.
 
jrhoden said:
ive been trying to find a good combination to go with my triple rectifier...

ive tried

Boss super Overdrive SD-1
danelectro black coffee
rp-150 ( for noise gate,eq)

i tried the rp150 efx - and it just wasnt right.... none of the distortions just sounded right

Ibanez Tube Screamer - ( this stays )

they seem to make it muddy

what do y'all use - maybe i should go with a rackmount efx ?

thanks
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For your distortion don't use a stomp box, use the Mesa distortion. You can get many different tones from the Mesa and the distortion channels are better quality than stomp boxes.
Id look into TC Electronics or Lexicon for FXs. Their FXs are very high quality.

Eck
 
Zaphod B said:
That makes a lot of sense - you're just pushing the preamp stage a bit.
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But also changing WHERE you push it - done right, you're not hitting it harder, really, but rather just hitting the preamp in a more focused frequency range.

Also, the mixing of odd-order and even-order harmonics you get from a solid state boost and a tube amp is something a lot of people seem to dig.
 
jrhoden said:
i was just looking at the TC Electronic G Major

i think it may be worth checking out


thanks
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To add to that, the G Major employs relay switching. So, if you get a midi controller (I have the DMC Ground Control Pro), you can have the G Major switch your channels for you and you can keep the Big Foot for a backup.

For example, I like to have some reverb on my clean channel always. I programmed a patch on the G Major that adds reverb and sets the relay to channel one. So, when I call up that patch with my Ground Control Pro, it goes to that patch AND switches to my clean channel. And when I switch to channel two, it goes to my channel two patch, turning off the reverb in the process. I like my dirties dry.

Another good thing about the G Major is that it does not act as a preamp. Therefore, there's very minimal (if any) coloring of the sound.

Anyway, I'm not a TC Electronic employee and I'm not an endorsee. I just happen to really like my G Major. That being said, TC should really pay me for the advertising I just did...if it made sense.

I also stand by the DMC Ground Control Pro. Best midi controller on the market. Works flawlessly with the G Major. I can switch channels, totally switch patches (program changes), or even use it like stomp boxes, turning effects on and off as I want (control changes). I also have an Ernie Ball volume pedal connected to my Ground Control Pro that works as a midi controller for whammy effects. Just plug it up to the Ground Control Pro and turn on the function for it and you're set.

Yet another cool thing about the Ground Control is that I only have ONE wire coming from it. That wire sends my midi data AND powers the unit so I don't have to have a power strip next to my pedal board. The cable I'm using was made for the Rocktron unit but it works great with the Ground Control. It's a 7 pin midi cable. 5 pin for the midi data and 2 pin for the power. The other end goes to my rack where the power is plugged into my Furman and the midi is plugged into my G Major

DMC should pay me, too. And I might as well get some Rocktron commission for pushing their cable.
 
LOL Myriad_Rocker

thanks for the input guys....at this point ive checked out several options -

the last couple days ive plugged straight thru - no rp150 but plugged into my ts9...minimal drive and level...i am going to go with the G major very soon - as soon as i can get some more money up... and dumping the rp150

set right the ts9 and bare Boogie sounds great - itll be even better when i get the G major for some more sound sculpting...
 
jrhoden said:
LOL Myriad_Rocker

thanks for the input guys....at this point ive checked out several options -

the last couple days ive plugged straight thru - no rp150 but plugged into my ts9...minimal drive and level...i am going to go with the G major very soon - as soon as i can get some more money up... and dumping the rp150

set right the ts9 and bare Boogie sounds great - itll be even better when i get the G major for some more sound sculpting...
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Good choice. You'll like it. They can be had for about $150 or so on the 'bay, I think. Read the manual. You'll need to set up the Boogie fx loop right. There's a feature called kill dry that needs to be turned on. Also, one of the FX loop knobs (the send, I think) needs to be 100% wet and the return should be at 50% (12 o'clock).

Enjoy.
 
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