effects hiding assistant

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what the heck is this, you might think... :-)
no, really: yesterday I listened to some bon jovi tracks, concentrating on the vocals, wanting to find out which effects are used.
none? I mean ok - on the very first album a 1-beat-delay seemed to be quite hip.
but the newer the album - the fewer effects... or the less you hear them??? hidden in the way of just faded/cut away after the phrase???
listening to "blaze of glory" I then heard some tiny reverb but the vocals sound biiiiiig.
then I went over to "keep the faith" - great vocals again, I did think of reverb but couldn't really hear it. even on "bed of roses" - where i expected some delay - nothing.
am I deaf?
i put in crush. on "it's my life" the verse-vocals are dry as dry can, aren't they? in the chorus again; there must be something but I can't hear it.
what cheered me up a little is that I definitely heard double-tracking on the chorus of "say it isn't so" - seems to be a MUST for that beatles-sound (besides that eq/flanger thing in the beginning).
so now I think I'd hear double-tracking if there was any in the rest of the songs.

what I intend to say is: I really believe that jbj has got a great voice - but hey... they've got their tricks too, or don't they???

that's what made me think of that "effects hiding assistant" who fades away any reverb or delay which could be too easily heard... bon jovi's EHA maybe earns too much and does his job quite well.
so I listened to gotthard, a swiss wanna-be-whitesnake-motleycrue hard-rock band. their EHA can't live on that job - I definitely heard that reverb and delay quickly fade out after the phrase. :-)
 
Wouldn't a very short but dense and highly mixed reverb do the exact same thing?
 
Well you got me, yes I am that EHA . Finally someone with a good pair of ears and some common sense.... Just kidding.
Jon Bon Bovi is a really good singer that's it. In modern (pop)music that's unique from what i've heard/read. There seem to be not that many singers that can actually do a song in a few takes without hitting wrong notes. But JBJ is one of them. Anyway read all about recording JBJ's voice at http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/1997_articles/jun97/stevelironi.html

Cheers
BigBee
 
The trend today is very dry, as opposed to the overly wet 'verb effects that were popular from the 70's right thru to the very early 90's. After that point, mixes started to get more "in-your-face" with less obvious reverb and delay........ Effects are still used now of course, just more sparingly.

Bruce Valeriani
Blue Bear Sound
 
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