Echoplex Effect in Sonar?

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Hi there,

I was listening to Led Zeppelin's The Song Remains The Same recently, and was wondering how to recreate what I believe is an Echoplex on Robert Plant's voice. It's most noticeable on "Whole Lotta Love", especially during his scat singing when Jimmy Page does his Theramin licks. The echo distorts and thins out as Plant's voice repeats. It's certainly a different kind of sound than most digital delays.

If you've heard the CD, is what I'm describing an Echoplex?

Either way, is there an easy way to recreate this with Sonar 2.0 XL? Or is there a DXi plug-in that will recreate this effect?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Ed
 
Most decent delays have a "high ratio" control on this. It's purpose is to tame down the high end on the echo's.

Anyway, if your's doesn't have this control, an even better way doing this is to run an eq in the effects buss before the delay.

A neat trick I use with analog mixers is to setup a delay at the delay time I want, feed it using an Aux send and return the delay to a channel strip instead of the effects return. I set the "feedback" control to nothing so that it is just one delay. Then I use the Aux send that feeds the echo on the return channel to get multiple hits. You can then eq the channel to take high frequencies off of it. Now, ever echo will have less high frequencies on it than the last one (if the aux send is post fader/eq...which it usually should be for effects..). Works quite well thank you...:)

In Sonar, you could I suppose do a similar thing using I/O's on your soundcard, but you have to be mindful of the latency delay.

Anyway. Hope this gives you some ideas.

Ed
 
Ed of Echoplex... That's a great hint from Ed of Echostar. :D
But that works for mono mix only. I listen to the song, it's a stereo echo anyway, so Will you need 2 return channels for Left & Right ? Can we just do that first on the Right channel, and overdub later for Left channel ? (the first echo comes in right output...)So we're gonna need 3 channels ? (1 original channel, 1 Right channel, 1 Left channel) ? Do I miss sumthin' here ? How would you do that Ed (sonusman) ?



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Ed
 
You could automate a pan....;)

You could even just copy the parts you want to "echo" and paste them to another track and apply some eq to those echos. You could even add a little noise to them if you want to full effect. You can even pitch them down a few cents and/or time stretch the echo's.

Lot's of ways to do this. Just gotta think about it. Use the tools you got.

Ed
 
Sonusman,
You could automate a pan....;)

You could even just copy the parts you want to "echo" and paste them to another track and apply some eq to those echos. You could even add a little noise to them if you want to full effect. You can even pitch them down a few cents and/or time stretch the echo's.

Lot's of ways to do this. Just gotta think about it. Use the tools you got.
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Great ideas--thanks!

Ed
 
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