Dynamic Effects On Reverb

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I am a vocalist and asking about dynamic effects on reverb . my project on pro tools consists of 4 tracks only ( 1 mono for vocal , 2 stereo aux for reverb and dely and 1 for master fading )
Reverb Aux track is our topic . In this track I use reverb plugin ( say waves true verb ) with dynamic effects like EQ , compressor and limiters in the same track ( Reverb Aux track ) to control the reverb . Then send our vocal track through it .
I noticed the dynamic effects which on the Reverb Aux track affect on both reverb and my vocal track .
my problem is ( I did dynamic processing on my vocal on the vocal track directly . after sending it to Reverb Aux track , its dynamic plugins affect my vocal again )
I want to make reverb dynamic plugins affect reverb only . not my vocal too .
can I send Aux track to another Aux track ? or how can I solve this issue .
please help me .
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Is the reverb plug's mix control set to 100% wet, or the dry output set to 0?
 
Is the reverb plug's mix control set to 100% wet, or the dry output set to 0?

Yea brother it is set to 100% wet but I don't think it is my problem .
When I put a limiter on reverb track I want it to affect the reverb plugin only not my vocal too .
Get it ?

Thanks for replying Mr. ashcat_It
 
I'm not a Pro Tools expert, but I'll take a swing anyway.

First off, I wouldn't say you have 4 tracks. I'd say you have 1 track and 3 busses. That's just me.

Also, maybe you're using the term "dynamic effects" differently from me. But I would classify a compressor and limiter as dynamic effects because they operate on the dynamics of the incoming signal. EQ does not. It operates on the frequencies of the incoming signal.

Anyway... I use Sonar, and in Sonar there is an order to the effects you add to a track or buss. So for example, if you add a reverb effect to a track and then add an EQ effect, the EQ we be after the reverb in the chain. So it will EQ the signal coming out of the reverb. If you don't want that to happen, you would move the EQ plug so that it comes before the EQ in the signal chain. Then it would operate on the signal before the reverb.

Is that maybe your problem?
 
How have you routed the vocal to the aux track?
Sounds like you've just set the channel output to the aux input - in which case the mixer is doing what you've told it to.
You need to set up a separate send (above the pan pot on the mixer) to that aux channel's input - then send both the dry vocal and the reverb aux to the master fader.

If you have already done that, make the aux send prefade ('pre' button on send level fader) and then solo the dry vocal. Does that still sound uncompressed? If so - next solo the reverb and see just how similar it sounds to the dry signal.
If you can make out the words clearly then the problem is probably be down to your choice of reverb. If it's got a lot of early reflections and/or is quite short - there will be a component of the reverb which is very similar to the dry vocal signal - so when you compress the reverb the whole mix will sound squashed.
Choose something with a longer reverb tail and then you probably won't have to compress it as much anyway

(I don't understand why you would compress reverb in the first place, why not just choose a reverb that sounds nice and run with it - the only dynamics i've ever come across on reverb is expanding/gating)
 
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