Dumb Sales Tax Question

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OK...

In 2 weeks...boxes & boxes of new CD's will be rolling in from the replication plant; & I have a link on my website to my PayPal store for sales.

Dumb Question: Do buyers of my CD have to pay sales tax...since it's an internet based purchase?

If so...how does that work?

Thanks,

mark4man
 
Depends....

In state sales get charged tax. Out of state sales do not. Except, some states are modifying their approach....best to visit yer local Department of Revenue web site. They know a lot more about it than I do.
 
rfire said:
In state sales get charged tax. Out of state sales do not. Except, some states are modifying their approach....

They can't; federal law will not allow them to tax out of state sales.

mark4man, you need to go to your state's dept. of revenue/taxation site, download the form to register for collection of sales tax. You can configure your Paypal cart to charge sales tax for your home state; it will not charge anybody else.
 
rfire & mshilarious...

Thanks very much...good info...will check it out right now.

mark4man
 
also, with the sales tax, you might be able to get a re-sale certificate, if you can show that you are a business anyway. i think you can be tax exempt on purchases pertaining to your 'business'.

i could be wrong. i was looking into it for a friend at some point, but i cant remember what i came up with exactly.

i know, you are just some guy who wants to sell his band's CD's..

go through CD baby, save yourself the hassle. sell them at shows- cash is cash, non traceable by the IRS really, don't have to pay tax on that..
 
TragikRemix...

Yeah, I saw that...the NJ Div. of Revenue registration form had a question that went to the tune of: "Will you need to make exempt purchases for your inventory or to produce your product?" But the instructions only state what you stated...that the line is for tax exempt purchases; & that if I do so...I'll have to submit an additional form...a "resale" form. I may leave that one alone for now.

[BTW - I'm sincerely hoping I downloaded the correct form (based on mshilariuous's keen tip)...since it was the only damn form on the div.'s website that even remotely resembled anything which would allow a resident to file as a business & subsequently collect sales tax...http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/revenue/forms/2000.pdf]

The area that threw me were the questions on employees vs. partners. Our first 200 > 300 sold CDs are to cover production/mastering costs, as agreed to by the band (I shelled out all the money up front, for those costs.) I'm our authorized agent, of sorts; & I'll be selling the CD online through our website...& after the initial payback I'll be equally divvying up the proceeds to the other band members (also by mutual agreement.) But they're not employees; & I shouldn't list them as partners in the business until they begin to collect as partners. There was also a question on the form as to when exactly the first sale will take place...which I have no way of knowing...so what I'm going to do is; attach two riders w/ the form explaining the co-band members thing & the "who knows if & when CDs will sell" thing. That way, I'm being honest w/ the state; & I'm sure they'll let me know if they have a problem w/ the business registration in that regard.

Thanks for all the help, everyone...

mark4man
 
honestly, i doubt they will even bother watching you over 1000 cd's, or whatever.
 
I believe this is the form you want:

http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/revenue/forms/njreg.pdf

When you are registered for sales tax, you are entitled to make tax-exempt purchases. This means that if you use an in-state replication plant, you would give them an exemption certificate with the tax ID# NJ gives you, and they would not charge you sales tax.

If you are using an out-of-state plant, they wouldn't charge NJ tax in the first place, so an exemption certificate is not necessary.

The area that threw me were the questions on employees vs. partners. Our first 200 > 300 sold CDs are to cover production/mastering costs, as agreed to by the band (I shelled out all the money up front, for those costs.) I'm our authorized agent, of sorts; & I'll be selling the CD online through our website...& after the initial payback I'll be equally divvying up the proceeds to the other band members (also by mutual agreement.) But they're not employees; & I shouldn't list them as partners in the business until they begin to collect as partners.

Technically, you have formed a partnership; even if the profit-sharing is not a simple equal share allocation. In a perfect world, you would have a written partnership agreement, then you would request a Federal tax ID # for the partnership, file your state and federal returns under the partnership name, etc. This is really more of an income tax issue than sales tax though, NJ just wants to know who will be on the hook if you collect taxes you don't remit, or fail to collect taxes.

But when you file your federal income tax return, if you decide to treat it as your kitty that your bandmates are paid out of as independent contractors, then you will need to show all of the revenue, and the payments to the bandmates as expenses, and potentially you will also have to issue them 1099s.

The other route of filing a partnership return and each bandmate including their allocated share of profits on their 1040s is not that simple either . . . wait until your bandmates figure out they can't file the EZ anymore :eek:

There was also a question on the form as to when exactly the first sale will take place...which I have no way of knowing...so what I'm going to do is; attach two riders w/ the form explaining the co-band members thing & the "who knows if & when CDs will sell" thing.

In reality, you will likely confuse the poor hapless state revenue employees. I don't want to insult anybody, but their job description pretty much requires they think inside the box. Meaning that if you do such a thing, you could significantly delay your registration.

Besides, they cannot decide for you whether you are a sole proprietor with independent contractor bandmates, or a partnership. That is a legal question they cannot resolve. If you force them to resolve it, they will probably refuse your application until all interested parties sign away their lives to joint and several liability for sales taxes.

Remember, all NJ wants at this point is its 7% (or whatever the sales tax rate is there, I don't know). If they have their 7%, they don't care who gets the rest of the money.

As for first sale, just list when you will first list it for sale on your site.
 
re: unsigned neg rep.

"ALL INCOME IS TAXABLE. Besides Federal Income Tax and State Sales tax are completely different. Hey, you're 16, you'll know what you are talking about one day."

yes shithead.

if you are SELLING an item, it is TAXED SALE. you also have to pay INCOME TAX if you are making an INCOME on it.

SINCE he is not making shit because he had to lay out all of the money to begin with, it IS NOT AN INCOME. He is negative money right now from laying it all out, so HE IS NOT MAKING A DIME yet; therefore IT IS NOT AN INCOME.

your just jealous fuckhead.

mark- i would set your price at whatever you want and just say tax included for instate sales. if you are feeling noble and feeling like you made your money on it, you can send the state it's due taxes every three months or whatever it is, presuming you follow through with your paperwork.

i'm saying, who the hell really gives a damn about a $10 CD... i've never paid a tax on any CD that i've bought directly from a band, at a show or otherwise.

thats why it's easier just to let a company like CDBaby take care of it. send them your box of CD's, put a link to there website on yours and let them deposit money into your account whenever they sell the CD's.. this way, you also dont have to worry about shipping, returns on broken CD's, and every other nuance involved with selling things.
 
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