Ducking/Sidechaining in Waves C1.... HELP!

[Change of POETS]

I need help here... I have a very intrusive bassline on a track I'm mixing for a client, and simply scooping the frequencies or using a volume envelope isn't working.

I have the Waves C1, but I'm not quite sure how to use it for Ducking the bassline so the kick comes through clearly.

Can anyone tell me how I can do this? I don't see a way for me to use an input source (the kick track) to duck the bassline.

I'm using Adobe Audition as my DAW and I have the C1 as a VST.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

BTW, I searched the forums and found plenty about ducking techniques, but the only Waves C1 stuff I found had to do with Cubase and it's WAY different than Audition.

Thanks.

-Change

 

[DM1]

You need to use the "C1 comp - sc" plugin, rather than the regular C1.

Also, when you're using it for ducking, each instance of the plugin can only work with a mono signal. So if you want to process stereo, you need to run two instances.

Here's how I do it:
- Create a new bus
- Add the C1-sc to the FX bin on the bus
- On the C1-sc, change the "Key mode" option from "Stereo" to "L->R". This means the left signal will be used to control the amount of compression, which in turn will be applied to the right signal. (You can use R->L if you prefer. There's no functional difference.)
- Add a send to the kick drum and bass guitar tracks, each going to this new bus. On the kick drum track, pan the send left, and on the bass guitar track, pan it right.
- Adjust the settings of the C1-sc to taste. The bus now outputs the ducked signal.


It's a bit awkward, for sure. If you have access to it, the db audioware compressor handles sidechains much more intuitively.

 

[Change of POETS]

You need to use the "C1 comp - sc" plugin, rather than the regular C1.

Also, when you're using it for ducking, each instance of the plugin can only work with a mono signal. So if you want to process stereo, you need to run two instances.

Here's how I do it:
- Create a new bus
- Add the C1-sc to the FX bin on the bus
- On the C1-sc, change the "Key mode" option from "Stereo" to "L->R". This means the left signal will be used to control the amount of compression, which in turn will be applied to the right signal. (You can use R->L if you prefer. There's no functional difference.)
- Add a send to the kick drum and bass guitar tracks, each going to this new bus. On the kick drum track, pan the send left, and on the bass guitar track, pan it right.
- Adjust the settings of the C1-sc to taste. The bus now outputs the ducked signal.


It's a bit awkward, for sure. If you have access to it, the db audioware compressor handles sidechains much more intuitively.

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate the help.

 

[saxpiano]

Hi there- I've been using Audition 5.5 for a long time- I have a stereo playback music track and a stereo vox track for my weekly podcast- I need ducking. I tried the method here, but I'm getting results that aren't working for this application; I have two buses (one is vox, one is background music) and I'd love to duck the music down under the vocal. How can I make this work without losing all stereo imaging? Thanks!

 

[RockinRobby]

I mean duck, and cover? OK? But "I have a VERY AGRESSIVE BASS LINE"

Why focus primarly on duck and cover? Why not tame said "VERY AGRESSIVE BASS LINE!!??" With

a) some transiant shaping

b) some limiting

and c) some compression?

And then look at the frequencies competing w/the kick and other elements in the low end?

AND THEN!

Look to duck and cover?