ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
Does anyone knwo if Drumagogg has a way of leveling out a drum track rather than replacing and leveling out a drum track?
Cheers.
Eck
Cheers.
Eck
peopleperson
I'm so sorry.
No.
Compression maybe?
Compression maybe?
Farview
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No, it only levels it if you replace the sound.ecktronic said:
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shackrock
New member
yeah just use compression or limiting..or both. ha.
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
Compression doesnt cut it for this really. I compressed the shit out of the tracks and they still arent level enough.
Would be a good idea though. Would save having to use a compressor.
So there is no such thing as a drum leveler?
Eck
Would be a good idea though. Would save having to use a compressor.
So there is no such thing as a drum leveler?
Eck
NL5
Unpossible!
ecktronic said:
Just a compressor. If the drummer is THAT bad that compression won't fix it, you have three options.
1) Cut-n-Paste
2) Envelope
3) Re-track
edit - or 4) DRUMAGOG - It will fix ANYTHING (just about).....
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
Yeah tis a killer cut and pasting. Takes fekin ages.
Funny though, cuase when I hear the drummer play the drums they soudn quite level, but when they are recorded they sound very dynamic.
Could be sensitive mics. I dunno
Eck
Funny though, cuase when I hear the drummer play the drums they soudn quite level, but when they are recorded they sound very dynamic.
Could be sensitive mics. I dunno
Eck
Freudian Slip
New member
ecktronic said:
Maybe you're not setting up the compressor right? Are you using software or hardware compression. I have never had a problem leveling out kick or snare.
If you can you may see if your compressor is on rms or peak. if it's on rms try switching it to peak.
F.S.
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chessrock
Banned
Actually, there is a piece of gear that most of the dipshits on this board aren't hip to.
And it's made by Aphex. It's called the Compellor. You should check it out. And no, it's not a compressor. It's a leveler / compounder. It's function is to even out the volume on things. Like drum hits, for example (hint hint).
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And it's made by Aphex. It's called the Compellor. You should check it out. And no, it's not a compressor. It's a leveler / compounder. It's function is to even out the volume on things. Like drum hits, for example (hint hint).
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Freudian Slip
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ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
chessrock said:
Awsome.
So its not a limiter either? Or is it?
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ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
I use Waves Renaisance compressor and I have a good idea of how to use it. Ive been using it for the last 3 years.Freudian Slip said:
Attack: 5ms Release around: 140ms (depending on the tempo of the track and how fast the kick is hit)
Ratio around 4:1 threshold pretty lo, like around -20dB
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Freudian Slip
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ecktronic said:
Do you have or have you tried L2 or maybe put it after Renaissance?
Just a thought.
F.S.
NL5
Unpossible!
ecktronic said:
Maybe try the Compellor then. I've never had the kind of trouble you are having - a few too soft hits in a song, and the comp usually fixes that, or I just paste in a better kick hit. Never used the Compellor myself, so I can't attest to it's effectiveness, but Chess generally is a pretty knowledgeable guy - even if he calls us dipshits - lol.
Good luck.
jmorris
New member
I agree with waves L2. I have used it for just this purpose and for me, the times I have used it ,it worked well. Track slammer setting is what I use.Freudian Slip said:
Freudian Slip
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jmorris said:
I just pull it down until it sounds right. and adjust the output. Some times I'll pull it down more to bring out a bit of low ring in the kick or give the snare more attack. But every signal that pops above the thresh hold is at the same volume. If you have a very, very wide variation in signal on kick or snare it will change the sound of the louder hits some. Nothing that I could not live with though.
Very easy and works very well for me.
F.S.
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
Cheers all for your info.
I use L2 on the master out, but that only cuts off the tops of the waves rather than leveling te hits though.
Eck
I use L2 on the master out, but that only cuts off the tops of the waves rather than leveling te hits though.
Eck
metalhead28
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ecktronic said:
If you stick a limiter on a drum track, it will crush the loud hits so you can turn up the soft ones. Isn't that what you want? If the "sound" of the hits is bad when you do compression or limiting, what other option do you have besides some cut & paste action?
You could also get creative with Drumagog and replace the hits. You could make a gog file using hits that you recorded, and then sample replace the worst parts of the track with the dynamic tracking turned off (or way down). Then you could keep the same sound, but keep consistent hits. You could cut the offending tracks into seperate parts and only sample replace the worst parts. You could do volume automation for extreme situations instead of trying to do it with compression. Lots of different things.
I would say chances are you would want to cut and paste to fix the worst hits, do some volume automation for less extreme differences, and also maybe some compression or limiting after that.
Freudian Slip
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ecktronic said:
If you start chopping into the the tops of the lower hits I would say you're level
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