drum sync issues w/ triton

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Hey folks,
I was wondering if anyone else out there does drum programming using a triton. I have found that i have a hell of a time w/ sync issues when trying to program the drums in real time. I know the triton's sequencer has a resolution rate of 192 ppq., and im thinking that must be the problem. It just seems ridiculous to me that a 2800 dollar workstation cant sync perfectly when programmed real time. ......anybody else come across this problem?
thanks, g

edit-btw, by sync I mean play a smooth rhythm the way its tapped in. The beats seem to come out choppy and out of time .....ish :)
 
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Is it a quantize issue? It does seem strange that you'd be having a bad enough problem to need to post here...

Even the Korg M1's small coarse sequencer played drums back smoothly when the parts were keyed in real time.
 
G, was there any option to disable auto/input quantize somewhere?

;)
Jaymz
 
tapping a rythm in manually usually is much more inaccurate than it seems when you're doing it... what kind of tapping are you talking about exactly? you should have a really hard time hearing the small steps in the sequencer...
 
S: "It does seem strange that you'd be having a bad enough problem to need to post here..." ....not sure what you mean by that, but the problem is definitely not imagined. It makes programming drums quite frustrating, and somewhat disappointing. I can only imagine that its due to the 192 ppq thing. I believe computer sequencers operate at over double that resolution, and if that is the problem, my recommendation to someone needing a sequencer to program real time drums would definitely be that route over a "workstation". I love the triton for what it can do..... just not real tickled over what it cant.

Hey James, It seems to work ok quantized, but it just doesnt quite get
"feely" enough without being able to input some parts real time. ..maybe im expecting too much

Chris, ....no problem hearing those small steps at all man, ......when the beat is off...... its just off.
 
Guernica said:
Hey James, It seems to work ok quantized, but it just doesnt quite get "feely" enough without being able to input some parts real time. ..maybe im expecting too much.
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Well, that's pretty much what I was talking about... :) You need to turn off "input quantize" (or auto quantize, or sumthin' like that...), to prevent Triton quantizing the notes while you're recording in realtime. I don't use Triton that often, but if I recall correctly, there's an option to turn this feature on and off somewhere... :)

;)
Jaymz
 
Guernica said:
S: Chris, ....no problem hearing those small steps at all man, ......when the beat is off...... its just off.
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that's not quite what i mean... anyway... if you got quantization enabled, it will eventually mess up... you simply can't keep the rythm as square as the quantization demands... so turn it off and, if need be, arrange the recorded track for quantization afterwards...
 
hey g long time no hear!

as you know, perfectly quantized drum tracks sound robotic.. so after you hit the quantize button.. you can put the drum sound in front or behind the beat and add a swing also.. this creates a little more of a human feel

this is where drum progamming can get really tedious and triesome after many hours.

Good luck and talk soon!
 
thanks guys,
I have been programming with the quantize set to "off", to keep it as free and "accurate to the tap"( :rolleyes: ) as possible. I just feel there are certain "gaps" that dont stick using the triton sequencer (which im using).

Jeffy, nice to see you too man.
"you can put the drum sound in front or behind the beat"
.....are your programming using the sequencer in your computer? It sounds like you are talking about nudging those drums. .......or is there a way to do that on the triton?....

thanks g
 
Guernica said:
thanks guys,
I have been programming with the quantize set to "off", to keep it as free and "accurate to the tap"( :rolleyes: ) as possible. I just feel there are certain "gaps" that dont stick using the triton sequencer (which im using).

Jeffy, nice to see you too man.
"you can put the drum sound in front or behind the beat"
.....are your programming using the sequencer in your computer? It sounds like you are talking about nudging those drums. .......or is there a way to do that on the triton?....

thanks g
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Hey G !

have you checked here --> http://www.tritonhaven.com I could usually find answers to my Triton questions there.

See Ya
Dennis
 
hey g

not home right now to, but dont use the quantize when first laying down your track.

then go back and use quantize after laying the track and tweak some of the settings for a human feel. i normally use 8th note quantizing and then move some other notes with the other setting in the quantize window

i found this helps a bunch!

let me know how this works :)
 
Okay, I've been out of the business for years and am just getting back in.

I have an M1 which I used for drums before on my demos. Are you saying there is no 'step recording' anymore?
 
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