S
SawkenDotCom
New member
Hiya, can any drummers suggest good pattern books/websites? I am looking specifically for jazz & bebop rhythm patterns and fills. Thanks!
thane1200
Medicated Member
Boom, Boom, Bap, Ba Boom-Ba-Boom Bap!
Boom, Boom, Bap, Ba Boom-Ba-Boom Bap, *tchi*
Boom, Boom, Bap, Ba Boom-Ba-Boom Bap!
Boom, Boom, Bap, Ba Boom-Ba-Boom Bap, *tchi*
Boom, Boom, Bap, Ba Boom-Ba-Boom Bap, *tchi*
Boom, Boom, Bap, Ba Boom-Ba-Boom Bap!
Boom, Boom, Bap, Ba Boom-Ba-Boom Bap, *tchi*
RezN8
Blick-um, blick-um...
Start here
I got this from an old pro, and it's invaluable information for every drummer.
"If you want to do this for real, you'll need these two books:
1. Progressive Steps to Syncopation by Ted Reed
2. Stick Control (for the snare drummer) by George Lawrence Stone
... AND a metronome (start slowly, 60bpm) AND some patience.
After you've gone through Reed's Syncopation book as written, then go back through the book, but this time play
- the standard jazz swing on the ride cymbal,
- and do the exercises with your other hand on the snare,
while keeping time with you're hihat foot on the upbeat (the "2" if you're counting in 2/4 time).
"Stick Control" is where you get all those tasty fills from, especially once you get in to the five and six-stroke rolls.
Get the mechanics down first, and then you can work on swinging the beats to fit the songs you're playing. There are other great books for be-bop, but you'll really miss out if you don't start here first."
Oh, and he said if you can't use the metronome for all of this, give up the drums and choose another instrument
Good luck , Rez
I got this from an old pro, and it's invaluable information for every drummer.
"If you want to do this for real, you'll need these two books:
1. Progressive Steps to Syncopation by Ted Reed
2. Stick Control (for the snare drummer) by George Lawrence Stone
... AND a metronome (start slowly, 60bpm) AND some patience.
After you've gone through Reed's Syncopation book as written, then go back through the book, but this time play
- the standard jazz swing on the ride cymbal,
- and do the exercises with your other hand on the snare,
while keeping time with you're hihat foot on the upbeat (the "2" if you're counting in 2/4 time).
"Stick Control" is where you get all those tasty fills from, especially once you get in to the five and six-stroke rolls.
Get the mechanics down first, and then you can work on swinging the beats to fit the songs you're playing. There are other great books for be-bop, but you'll really miss out if you don't start here first."
Oh, and he said if you can't use the metronome for all of this, give up the drums and choose another instrument
Good luck , Rez
M
mdlynn
New member
Try John Riley's books The Art of Bop Drumming and Beyond Bop. Also has a new book that just came out: The Jazz Drummer's Workshop. And of course Jim chapin's Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer. Second Ted Reed and Stone.
F
firby
New member
Ted Reed. Stone. Jim Chapin (I had a lesson from that guy). Also Chester Thompson's "the new breed". That and listen to a bunch of bebop and hard bop. Listen to tons of it. You won't get it unless you listen to tons of it.
E
emergencyexit
New member
firby said:
I think he hit the jackpot here. Books are ok and can get you started, but nothing will get you further than sitting down and actually listening to some good (or even bad) drummers. There are a ton of recordings and I bet you already have access to a ton of them and you don't know it. Just get creative and you'll find it will help you a lot more in the end.
A
Anders
New member
Im not sure if this is what youre looking for but, maybe you should check out this book: "jungle drum n bass" by johnny rabb. I recently ordered it, but i havent got it yet so i cant tell you to much about it.. but its been voted best instruction book or somethin by drummer world. it teaches you how to play complex drum n bass rhytms on an acoustic drum set. with 2 snares and even doubble bass pedals! 2 cds with examples and groove tracks you can play along to are also included. Im really looking forward to learning that stuff.
M
mikeh
New member
Jazz & Be-bop more than most music depends so much on feel and responding to the other players (vs. playing some standards patterns). Obviously, driving the groove by swinging on the ride with 1/2 notes on the hi-hat is the basic "pattern, however, the snare hits and kick drum accents are really driven by what the other players are doing.
That being said, the Riley books are helpful and Reed's syncopation book can help to develop some of the left hand technique (while swinging with the right hand - assuming you play right handed.)
I agree with firby, you really need to listen and absorb a lot of jazz to gain a respect for the feel.
That being said, the Riley books are helpful and Reed's syncopation book can help to develop some of the left hand technique (while swinging with the right hand - assuming you play right handed.)
I agree with firby, you really need to listen and absorb a lot of jazz to gain a respect for the feel.