Drum Mixing tips

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Any good drum mixing tips? Should I mic the bottom of my snare and top for more crackle
 
And also When I use eq and compression what should I put first Eq or compression or compression and eq?
 
Any good drum mixing tips? Should I mic the bottom of my snare and top for more crackle

I always do, I mic under the snare with a small condenser, reverse the Phase (polarity) of the bottom mic.

Record top and bottom mics to separate tracks so that you can eq them and blend them together to get the sound you want later, or leave the bottom mic out if it sounds better without it.

alan.
 
one interesting discussion that I have had in the past was about mixing the overheads first or last. basically weather you should mix the overheads and add the close Mic's kit pieces to add a little extra punch, or mix the individual pieces first then add the overheads for a little extra ambiance. the latter, I find creates much more of a typical pop sound, the former I find, creates a natural drum tone. just a little thing you may want to try. when mixing drums though I find the most important thing is to get the kick to compliment the bass (guitar) and the snare to sit equally with the kick, the balance of these two pieces can make or break a mix, then mix the hi-hat, toms, cymbals etc. to sound great with the kick and snare, if that makes sense.
 
And also When I use eq and compression what should I put first Eq or compression or compression and eq?

I nearly always start with EQ first then compression. The reason is that the compressor is not acting on any frequencies that have been removed by the EQ. However, no rules, try it the other way if you can't get it to work for you and have a listen, sometimes I plug things in a different order by mistake only to find that I like it better in that particular project. Don't be afraid to try things out to see what happens.

Alan.
 
I use parallel compression on snare and kick.
Put some compression on toms too, but I add it on insert.
EQ the snare, bring the body more, same with kick, I roll down the high freq a bit, so the "skin" bite of the kick won't stand out too much
EQ the overheads, so it sounds more crisp....and I roll down the low freq, to clean up the "bleeding" from snare, kick and toms
 
what would be the best way of cleaning up the bleeding from other drums?
 
The bleed is part of the sound. When I first went to school I was interesting in removing bleed, but really its part of the sound and you're not going to hear the bleed anyway. Unless you gate the snot out of it.
 
What kind of mic are you using to mic the snare? For me with just a 57 I aim the mic just above the rim and pointed across the surface of the head. The best way to clean up the bleed is to work with it by blending the drums so that it isn't noticeable. Your not going to get rid of the bleed unless you record the drums one drum at a time or you use drum samples to build your drum track.
 
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