Drum Mic Mounting

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First of all, do they make a clip that will attach a 58 to the rim of a rack tom? Secondly, will I hear a difference from it being on a stand? Any thumping or resonating tones?

I am limited on space and when my drums are set up I'm tripping all over shit when I enter my room.

Yes, my crappy room is too small.
 
ez_willis said:
First of all, do they make a clip that will attach a 58 to the rim of a rack tom?
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Nevermind about this part, and yes, I realize that's a 57.

And I would be hitting that mic every single time I hit my snare.
 

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you can try something like this:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Audix-DVice-Drum-Microphone-Clip?sku=270685

my cousin has one like that which he uses on his snare for live sound. they record off the board sometimes and i don't notice anything funny with the snare sound from using that clip. it should work OK for your situation. i think Guitar Center might have some cheaper versions too.


EDIT: the clip i linked to above has a flexible 'neck' so you can position the mic in a place where you might not hit it (as much). pretty nifty device. i'm not sure if it will alter the sound in the studio as opposed to a regular mic stand, but i doubt it based on my experience with that type of clip.
 
Those clips normally work alright. If you buy that clip, you can probably shove your mic further back in the clip so that it is closer to the edge of the rim. I used some low budget APEX "drum" mics that only had little clips, and owuldnt fit on a normal stand, and I never had issues with thumping noises.


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ez_willis said:
First of all, do they make a clip that will attach a 58 to the rim of a rack tom? Secondly, will I hear a difference from it being on a stand? Any thumping or resonating tones?

I am limited on space and when my drums are set up I'm tripping all over shit when I enter my room.

Yes, my crappy room is too small.
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I prefer decoupling the mic from the drum if I can...

I remember MadAudio saying a while back he finally switched from clips to stands and it made a world of difference for him.

Personally, I prefer to save the one called "the claw" for stage work. Although there are some better shock mounting clips available these days, I think those are usually for much smaller mics.

Check this page for options.

http://www.stealth7000.com/

I never used their products so I can't tell you my opinions. However, there are dual-mic mounts on that page that might be good at least for the mounted toms and OHs.

Let us know what you find.
 
RezN8 said:
I remember MadAudio saying a while back he finally switched from clips to stands and it made a world of difference for him.
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Yep, good memory. I used LP Claws, and while they take much less space than stands, they do tend to pass audible vibrations from the drums to the mics. One of my 57's died from excessive vibration (or at least I think that was the reason).
 
If you figure out the best way to do it it's really better for the stand. I've had more drummers complain about being scared of hitting the mic when it's on a clip than when it's on a stand.

it's more just a matter of playing puzzle peices when it's on a boom
 
I mounted them from the ceiling, down.
 

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ez_willis said:
Where's my drum clip that you were going to record? :D
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Check your Triplets thread. You must've gone offline right as I posted it. :p

I hope that's what you were talking about. And they are indeed triplets.
 
stands all the way!

10 pack of MF stands work fine for studio stuff, just like 0% road worthiness..

man, the problems i've had with clips..

mics belong on stands. and you will be suprised, you won't hit the mic that much, once you get used to actually hitting the center of the snare!

it's like a forced learning thing; lets stick a mic in your way so we force you to hit the center of the snare, getting the best sound from it and you learn not to smash the mic in the process!!
 
I have some claw type but I way prefer mic stands for the positioning flexability. I kind of like the mics back futher than I can get with the claw mount.
 
ez_willis said:
I mounted them from the ceiling, down.
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I have been considering such a set up but I thought it would be a bit strange.

It's a lot easier being unconventional when someone is in on it with you. :D

This setup should work great in my small studio. Sometimes I have to move the drums to pull down the attic steps and I hate having to take down the mics. I guess with the right boom I can also use it for vocals. If I mount pipe flanges to the ceiling I can even unsrew them and take them down if need be.
 
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If I mount pipe flanges to the ceiling I can even unsrew them and take them down if need be.
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Radio Shack sells a table mount mic adapter that works perfectly. It already has the proper threads on it. It was $2.
 
ez_willis said:
Radio Shack sells a table mount mic adapter that works perfectly. It already has the proper threads on it. It was $2.
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Sweet! Thanks for the tip.
 
i have the audix clips, and they work alright...i haven't experienced any audible noise/vibrations from the use of the clip, but have noticed a loss in attack with toms that move around a lot when hit(i.e. shitty rack toms)

i've also noticed that the necks can tend to sag when using heavier mics, sm-57's/58's included, again usually when you have rack toms that wiggle all over...i usually use the audix d2/d4 on toms, so this isn't much of a problem for myself, but could very well be for those who use larger mics.
 
I recall seeing generic shockmounts made to hold mics with a handheld body style (a la sm 57) at Guitar Center a while back. Perhaps you could use those with clips and get rid of some of the rumble that comes through clips?
 
Having used most all of the drum clamps available out there, my preference so far by far is the metal shure clamps, not the ones pictured above or that sell with the PG series mics. The metal ones are more durable, and offer a lot of flexibility between different positions, and can even hold two mics. Next time I have one in my hand or have my Shure price list open I will check the model number. Off the top of my head though I think it may be an A56D.
 
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