DP-24 lack of scenes - are fader/pan/eq/fx settings saved?

[cda]

I am thinking of buying a DP-24 or DP-32 but the lack of scenes may be a problem for me. I have read the manual/s and searched online about this, but to no avail.

What I would like to know is whether or not all eq, pan, fx, fader settings for a song are saved with the song and then restored with the song when loaded again.

Here is a working example of what I am asking: let's say I have been mixing a song, and decided to work on another. Can I save the current song, load another, work on that, save it, and then load in the first song and carry on where I left off, with all the eq, pan, fx and fader settings restored? On my 2488 Neo, I use scenes to do this.

BTW, I realise the faders and controls are not motorised! I am referring to internal settings - where the faders are concerned, there is a screen where fader levels can be seen, according to the manual.

Many thanks to any help anyone can give,

CDA.

 

[clivewil]

the desk should keep your settings saved with the song, but lack of scenes was a major blow to me, too - so i did all that stuff via MIDI, getting Sonar (pc midi sequencer) to send my DP-32 the controller values to set up my inital mix for me, then after that i record my additional adjustments in real time, giving me a form of automix

yes it's a little longwinded but it's easier than writing everything down on a track sheet and poking it all in manually every time

 

[cda]

Thanks for your reply. I would never have thought of automating the settings that way. I assume this can be done with hardware sequencers/workstations as well as computers? I have no computer in my studio and want to try it on the Neo.

I don't understand the thinking in leaving scenes out on the DP-24.

 

[clivewil]

I don't understand the thinking in leaving scenes out on the DP-24.

yeah, ditto with the DP-32 - i didn't confirm Scenes were included with the unit simply because it was unthinkable that it wouldn't include them... same for a pitch control. i have a very nasty cantankerous Jem guitar, and my upper vox range seems to always be one semitone too low - so yeah, i need a pitch control. and the input dynamics - i loved the exciter, but if i can only compress during recording(!) then that means nothing can be used except the compressors.

my DP-32 lives in its box on top of a cupboard. it lasted one week before being canned. i bought a second Yamaha AW-16G to go alongside my original one, and together they give me everything the DP-32 didn't, except for the SD card convenience. i can live with that.

I assume this can be done with hardware sequencers/workstations as well as computers? I have no computer in my studio and want to try it on the Neo.

as long as you have some way of sending a CC controller on a particular midi channel, then yes you can. if you don't understand reading a midi implementation chart, then post back here and i'll write up the controller numbers along with their names and effective ranges for you

 

[cda]

Thanks very much for your reply. I am pretty up on MIDI, but if I have any problems I will take you up on your offer of help.

As for the DP-24...no pitch control either? I was aware of the limitations of the dynamics and fx, but this is a loss too far. I suppose it must be tricky to do that with SD cards or something. But still, I think it is off my shopping list.

The AW16g is a good machine. I have two as well and thought that going to a Neo was an upgrade. I do not think this now. I kind of swap between the two now.