don't try this at home

[participant]

...unless you're into seriously wasted time...

I've been working on a remix of a tune I did a while back which required humongous guitars. I'd gotten the guitars large by using panned doubled tracks, played the same but w/different pickup switched in, and by sending part of each to a subgroup with a Waves S1 Shuffler loaded.

Well, I'd forgotten how I routed everything--and just sent the guitar channels STRAIGHT to the subgroup...

And couldn't figure out why my guitar sound sucked so bad... and why it was so thin!!

1) Make sure (if you're doing this!!) to always use the channel SENDS, not the routing option at the bottom of the fader... (then, pan the subgroup to a different width... voila! Huge guitars)

Please smack the shit out of me (and remind me of this next time you hear my tune, and the guitars sound like Wimpy played them w/a soggy hamburger)


C

 

[JR#97]

What's the S1 shuffler?

 

[participant]

The Waves S1 is a stereo widener. With stereo input, it can "widen" the apparent soundfield. I'm using it on hard panned electric guitars. I just feed the sends about 50% of each gtr (which are already hard-panned), and put the S1 (stereo) on the subgroup. Before that I've slapped a Waves Q4 equalizer in the group, and rolled off lows at a slightly different place than the hardpanned tracks.

This leaves the hard panned tracks where they are, and adds "more" guitar way outside. The result is wiiide guitars. If you use the S1 by itself, the tracks will disappear in mono.


c

 

[moelar2]

Participant

Whoa! This is new to me... So does the channel routing have that effect on everything? Or does it have to be panned L/R? I have Cubase running but I don't see how else i could route the channel to the sub groups....you mention the channel sends...how?

Thanks!

 

[Alchemist3k]

Hmm, an interesting technique indeed. I have always assumed the Shuffler's stereo capabilities was aimed at mastering.