Does Anybody Have a SoundProof Room in a CONDO w/ Success??

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Holy! My salary is really low & I went looking for a house because I want to have privacy to do my recording projects & have a place to Jam etc etc.

so when I had the numbers on paper this week = reality check! I can't afford a house! So I'm sitting here at work & an idea just hit me! ok ok

Has anybody here build a SoundProofed Room big enough for Drums Guitars Amps etc etc within there Condo? Can this be done? IF so, how much money if somebody did it?

I was now thinking I can afford a condo w/ basement & do this in the basement?

whoa!
 
I record in an apartment and I have to say that its miserable.
Bro.... just buy a house! Renting is stupid anyway because you’re making somebody rich with your rent. Think about it man! Wouldn’t it be brilliant to have a real sound proof facility rather that some thrown together shit. Oh yea I feel ya on the money thing. Paying rent while trying to save money for a house is like filling a leaking bucket.
 
My wife and I currently own our own home, but prior to that we rented a two bedroom townhouse in Connecticut.

What I did was very sneaky... I simply removed all the moulding along the floor, and screwed onto all four walls and the ceiling, two additional layers of sheet rock. One layer was 3/8" the other was 5/8" thick, I think. Maybe it was 1/2. Anyway, after it was all installed, we spackled and taped and painted it the same color it was before we moved in.

Landlord never knew, but the room was quite a bit more quiet.

If you own the place you can do it correctly, by reading all the wonderful posts here, I'm just offering a cheap shortcut for "acceptable".
 
well yes, I would actually buy the condo! So if it is possible <---- Then I would put money into making a room within the Condo (basement) to be soundproof!

I was wondering if anybody did this with success

I don't want to buy a condo to find out that this is not feasible!

Ideally, I would go out & find a condo that is the end unit ;) & then make the basement a soundproof room (professionally done), thus making me & a band rock out & record till 2AM in the morning without any other units (neighbors) hearing any of it! (unless somebody opens a door lol).

Is this feasible? or am I dreaming?
 
well, the way I suggested is by far not the right way of doing it, but the room I did over was a 2nd floor bedroom butted against a neighbor's bedroom, so I could mix late at night without any issues. I didn't have the marshall stack going that late, however.

A basement studio is a different animal altogether, and you have to consider not only the walls, but the ceilings, especially if the walls are concrete and the joints are exposed.

At www.johnlsayers.com you'll find many, really good examples of basement studios, and the construction of, which should put you in the right direction.

But its possible to do up a nice studio in a basement, no matter what the structure. Soundproofing costs money, as does angling walls, insulation, etc. Depending on your financial situation, you might buy the condo this year, do some of the soundproofing next year, and completing it the year after, for example.
 

so when I had the numbers on paper this week = reality check! I can't afford a house! So I'm sitting here at work & an idea just hit me! ok ok
whoa! [/B]



Just curious,

Have you looked at all your options? Like FHA? Even local state programs can really help people get in. Plus don't forget you can usually take home more pay due to interest deductions. I'm only bringing this up because I know people who absolutely thought they could not afford a house only to find that through some creative means they really could. Make sure you've covered all your bases.
 
BPLive said:
Ideally, I would go out & find a condo that is the end unit ;) & then make the basement a soundproof room (professionally done), thus making me & a band rock out & record till 2AM in the morning without any other units (neighbors) hearing any of it! (unless somebody opens a door lol).

Is this feasible? or am I dreaming?

You're dreaming. You might pull off recording drums in the afternoon when traffic noise will help mask the sound. You might get by with recording guitars at a moderate volume late at night.

Full band jam at 2AM? unlikely. If you could afford to soundproof a condo basement to that level you could probably afford a house.
 
Therage may have a good point. We didn't think there was a snowballs chance... we could afford either but there are some great direct lender programs out there! We managed 100% financing though our bank without PMI (private mortgage insurance) this year at a very good interest rate. The broker my friend referred us to couldn't touch what the bank did for us. It can be done!:)
 
well you know.... I thought it over, looked into. I just have to wait untill the job market picks back up...

making under 30k a year isnt going to cut it where I live.

I wanted to know about a condo because it cuts out many other expenses. ie property tax, maintenance etc..

thanx... its not possible to soundproof a condo room then.
 
It certainly is possible but it certainly isnt cheap. With the cash youd be sinking into it (nevermind the rules preventing it) - you might as well buy a moonshine hut in the Kentucky hills
 
BPlive...I have to go with Scinx...buy a moonshine shed in the Kentucky hills. I live in the woods and have to start a car to go to my neighbors, no complaints about "noise" out in the woods haha. If you want a studio you can jam in all night long you need a house in the country. Check with FHA, HUD, get a loan, build your studio. I was raised in Los Angeles, but I love the country life. Now what'd that tree say...oh yeah "crank it up!" Ralph
 
haha

this is my point.... building the room is a one shot deal in the condo! I'll buy the condo once I save enough to build the room.

so now it is possible?

Hellzzz, I give 15k = I'll have my room in a cheap condo that keeps my expenses down.

or does the room cost way more than 15k?

:) giddy..... see where I'm geting at?
 
Just a thought. IF, you do buy your condo, DO NOT plan a room within a room design on anything but the first floor unless it is engineered. This type of design, if built correctly, is extremely heavy and could overload the structural elements. But if you only plan on adding mass to the existing walls that is ok to a point, as the load bearing walls are designed for it. However, IF your studio is going to utilize the existing floor, NO amount of mass added to walls and ceiling will prevent structural transmittal of sound throughout the whole condo structure by way of the floor. This is key element in low frequency transmission. EVEN CONCRETE. Thats why true room within a room designs, utilize their own SEPERATE concrete foundations. Some float a concrete floor with embedded springs, to float it on the existing concrete slabs.
I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade here, but it is difficult enough to build soundproofing elements in structures that are not sensitive to structural transmission. But when you are confronted with this reality, make no mistake. You are bitting off a chunk of expertise to REALLY accomplish it. You literally could waste many thousands of dollars in soundproofing materials, only to find it does little to prevent your neighbors from feeling as well as hearing your sessions. I know, you and others may scoff, but its just a word of warning. Before you pound ONE NAIL, you should investigate all avenues of the existing construction. As well as the existing HVAC. That alone is enough to negate the same dollars spent on soundproofing. Soundproofing is a misnomer if not thoroughly understood. And if you don't believe me, far be it from me to twist your arm, but lets put it this way.

A noted acoustician in europe told me of an experimental building in which they built a concrete inner shell, which was a room floated within another concrete outer shell. They had a sealed access that they could enter, and close the access. When finished, they proceeded with a simple test. They fired a 9 mm pistol on the interior of the inner shell. No sound was detected on the exterior, in a 360 degree radius around the outer shell at one meter. HOWEVER, when a small wooden wedge was driven into the airspace dividing the two concrete shells, whereby it TOUCHED both shells, a small portable radio placed in the inner room, could clearly be heard in all directions on the outside of the exterior shell. Your floors are tied to the structure at MANY points.

Structural transmission is not a myth. But don't take my word for it. Its your money.
I'm just trying to prevent one of Murphys laws from makeing an appearance, which reads something like "a fool and his money soon part ways".

Cheers.
fitZ:)
 
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