do i eq vocals with headphones or through monitors??

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do i eq vocals with headphones or through monitors?? well kinda new about week old into the monitor game (event xl8) and i was wondering should i eq vocals through monitor or headphones (sony mdr-v600) and i have a firebox.
 
The rule of thumb is usually not to make any sonic decisions through headphones and eq'ing is certainly an important one. Use your monitors for everything, that's what they're there for. I'm someone that NEVER puts headphones on my head, they hurt my ears and ALWAYS lie and make everything sound nice.
 
hmm thats what i figured in a way.......but sometimes i hear things in my headphone over monitors.........
 
I would use headphones and monitors for all mixing/tracking.
And if you have cheap small speakers, use them aswell.
Start with the monitors then decent headphones then listen on cheap speakers, and alternate.

Eck
 
You probably are just used to listening in your phones.

If you have the monitors set up properly, you'll actually get a better stereo image through them, over headphones.

I'd say, until you feel confident with the monitors, EQ through them, then reference through the phones, sort of for a security blanket, lol.
Eventually, you'll learn how things are supposed to sound in the monitors.
 
All that being said, I still refer to headphones for effects like reverbs, and delays. I also tend to check panning on phones also. But I would never base decisions soley on headphones. I say use all devices at your disposal to confirm or deny what your monitors are telling you.
 
ecktronic said:
I would use headphones and monitors for all mixing/tracking.
And if you have cheap small speakers, use them aswell.
Start with the monitors then decent headphones then listen on cheap speakers, and alternate.

Eck
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wot he said

I personally choose to have good monitors and when I can afford it or borrow them, excellent headphones - I think it's a critical part of the mixing process to reference your stuff on a pair of high end headphones ... things will pop out at you that you might not otherwise hear on near fields - ... computer speakers w/ subs are also plentiful and pretty cheap.
 
:D Yo Hormiga-hombre:]

You can do two mixes and two burns. Use your cans for one. Use the monitors for the other.

I'm sure you will find that what you hear in cans is not what you get on the CD.

I suppose if you work at it long enough, you might get a couple of nice things through cans; however, good monitors will let you hear what you are going to get when you burn your CD. [or whatever]

Spring is not too far away. Time to clean the golf clubs.

Green Hornet :p :D
 
question what exactly is tracking? i hear the term but never got what it actually mean cause i see it used in different contents.
 
The Green Hornet said:
:D Yo Hormiga-hombre:]
I'm sure you will find that what you hear in cans is not what you get on the CD.
good monitors will let you hear what you are going to get when you burn your CD. [or whatever]
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I dont beleive that is right atall. On each sound system, your mix will sound different, so its about learning to know how your monitors translate to make your mix sound good on most sound systems rather than just, mix it on monitors the way you tihnk it should sound, then it will magically sound good on all sound systems.

Eck
 
I check levels with headphones and meters. I check panning with headphones and monitors. I check EQ with monitors and home stereo. YMMV
 
Nick98338 said:
I check levels with headphones and meters. I check panning with headphones and monitors. I check EQ with monitors and home stereo. YMMV
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Only a slight variation in milage here ;). I'm with all of that except I have to check levels with headphones and (mostly) monitors. Because of the (usually) large difference in apparent bass response between phones and monitors, I don't trust phones to give the proper relative levels.

As I think of it, this is an area that straddles both levels and EQ. The boundaries are not quite as clear as they seem at first pass. EQ is really setting levels by frequency. But when checking levels of, say, a bass, kick or hi-hat track, where most of the energy is within a fairly narrow (relatively speaking) section of the spectrum, the difference between checking EQ and checking levels is academic.

G.
 
Yeah Glen is right. There is a BIG difference in hearing volumes on good headphones than on good monitors. I dont notice dymanics as much on headphones but more on speakers, especially kick and bass.

Eck
 
Yo Eck:

Uhh, isn't that what I said in my post? If not, it's what I meant.

If you have any spare Laphroaig from the Isle of Islay, send it to me.

:D
Green Hornet
 
First song I mixed was done on K240df phones. Real nice, flat response (they say).

Got it done and thought, I'll take it out to my car and listen. At the time I had a mustang gt convertable with the killer :rolleyes: "mach 460" sound system.

"this is going to be great" I said to my self. Plugged it in and turned it to normal volumes. Immediately blew out my door speaker with the first kick drum hit. I mean fried it :eek: :( :o

So ya, slight lack of dynamic representation :D

Had monitors with in a week.

F.S.
 
The Green Hornet said:
Yo Eck:

Uhh, isn't that what I said in my post? If not, it's what I meant.

If you have any spare Laphroaig from the Isle of Islay, send it to me.

:D
Green Hornet
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Nup. We were both saying about the difference in headphones and monitors for mixing, but you didnt say what any of the diferences were, I was talking about apparent volume differences.

Eck
 
:D Yo Eck:

I guess I "assumed" most would know about the "differences" between cans and monitors.

Cans have a mellow environment; however, what one hears in cans isn't what one gets on the burn to CD.

You are certainly right about bass and other sounds.

Using decent monitors can help one get to CD what his/her ears like best and not all engineers hear the same things.

I was given a tape of a pro band, many years of playing experience. I know the bass player very well and he is well know in many circles. Elgin Vines by name. Didi McWilliams paid for the digital cassettes, as she was the vocalist doing the show in Kalamazoo. Whoever made the final adjustments before making the tape left the entire band and vocalist very DRY. No ambience.

I redid the tape and added some Yamaha stage reverb and it made a ton of difference. So, I guess my ears were different than those of the original engineer. Didi McWilliams loved the remake, as did my bass playing buddy.

Spring is coming, as the sun just came out in Michigan.

Green Hornet :D :rolleyes: :D
 
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