DMP3 vs. SP VTB-1

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im thinking of one of these 2 compressors...for mics im going to have a SP b-1 and eventually get a mxl v67g....

im looking to record mainly rock vocals on the pre...but, even though ive got my drums sounding kickass just going through a compressor into my mackie and then into the recorder i may want to put my overheads through the pre...i guess it depends on how much difference it actually makes since the DMP3 has 2 channels nad the VTB only 1

as overheads i have 603s-so how would these two preamps sound on 603s for rock drums

and then as my vocal mic i have a SP B-1....how would this fair on these two mic preamps

please guys tell me how these mics sound for rock vocals and rock guitar...and if you have any sound clips please display them

thanks alot
 
Well, I wouldn't envision either one of these as un upgrade to a Mackie preamp.
 
so plugging into my compressor-and the my mackie- would sound the same as pluggin into a compressor-and then one of the above mentioned preamps-and then again to mackie

theyd sound the same???
 
rev e-what do you have to say about the sounds of these preamps in comparison to the mackie
 
Bottom line, all three are budget pres, so let's not get too heated about this discussion. IMO, both the DMP3 and the VTB-1 are a step above the Mackie in terms of quality that can be useful in a recording. I have all three and I find the DMP3 and the VTB-1 far more useful for recording. Great pres have "dimension." They "stand up" off the canvas. Kind of like those popup books or clay on a canvas... You can hear more than just a single plane to them. They have body... kinda hard to explain. This is why I've always rented the good stuff for critical recordings.

The DMP3 and VTB-1 have more "dimension" than the Mackie. Tracks recorded through my Mackie vlz pro always sounded "flat on the canvas" to me. The VTB-1 and DMP3 don't sound as "flat on the canvas" to me.

This is not to say that the VTB-1 sounds similar to the DMP3. They are radically different! They just have more useful character (to me) than the Mackie.
 
I also think the DMP3 and VTB-1 sound noticably better than the
Mackie pre's. Like the VTB-1 a bit more than the DMP3 as it's quieter at/near full gain for dyamic microphones.
And although it may nor be politically correct :), during mixdown the "tube blend" feature could be handy-sometimes!

Chris
 
gitrokr said:
so plugging into my compressor-and the my mackie- would sound the same as pluggin into a compressor-and then one of the above mentioned preamps-and then again to mackie
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Whoa. Let's get something straight, here. First off, you do not want to plug first in to your compressor, then to the mic pre. :D You go to the mic pre first, alright?

Now that we have that out of the way . . .

My experience with these three particular mic pres: They're all capable and functional. The vtb1 I would characterize as bland to mildly colored. The Mackie and the DMP3 are of the transparent variety.

The Mackie is a good mic pre, as long as you don't push it too hard either way. On very loud sources -- and on very quiet sources -- it really shows it's warts. It likes things that are somewhere in the middle. It can also get testy with dynamic mics at times.

Nothing overly special about the VTB1. It does it's job silently and effectively.

The DMP3 is kind of tricky with it's gainstaging. The HI GAIN / LOW GAIN option often leaves you with either a signal that's too soft or too loud. But once you get the hang of it, it's about the most capable of the bunch. It's worth the price for it's DI's alone. It has a very flat response. It preserves all of the bass without any funky low-end downward slope curves. And it's smoother on high-end transients; particularly cymbal crashes and the like -- that's kind of where it shows it's moxy.
 
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