Dithering Types???

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Would anyone know of a tutotial on the different types of dithering. I just need a quick explanation on "Moderate", "Normal" and "Ultra" and if one is recommended for certain types of music or formats or whatever.
Or if anyone can give me a quick explanation on the differences...I would appreciate that. Thanx
 
RAMI said:
Would anyone know of a tutotial on the different types of dithering. I just need a quick explanation on "Moderate", "Normal" and "Ultra" and if one is recommended for certain types of music or formats or whatever.
Or if anyone can give me a quick explanation on the differences...I would appreciate that. Thanx
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Assuming that you're talking about the noise shaping options on the L2.
Essentially they are 3 different ways of "pushing" the noise from dithering into a higher frequency range so that it is less audible. As the names would suggest, moderate supplies the least amount of noise shaping, moderate more. and ultra the most. I wouldn't say that any of them is geared toward a particluar type of music, though those with a wider dynamic range may benefit from a higher setting to help reduce any noise in softer parts of the music and ambience.

Best tutorial is probably the L2 manual.
 
Ah...Thanx...yes, I have the L1, not the L2. But I've had it for a long time. Problem is, I've changed OS's a few times since getting it and lost everything on my C Drive the first time I changed OS's because I didn't know what I was doing. The manual was on that drive...I don' really miss the manual except for when it comes to something like this. Thanx for the info. I don't hear a difference, so I was wondering if there really is one.
 
RAMI said:
I have the L1, not the L2. But I've had it for I don't hear a difference, so I was wondering if there really is one.
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I'm no expert but it seems like most articles I 've read where they set up comparisons of dithere types and noise shaping involve using quiet parts and fades
whilst turning things up obscene loud!. The articles(pdf) at the ozone site are great. you can also download the prepared test signals in wav( after un zip) form at the same page.

http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/guides.html



A good idea is to use the -50db clipps in isolation instead of using something that you might accidently que up a loud part while your cranked!! (wear those tweeter domes!) :(

Really, if it's busy music, you'll be hard pressed to "name that dither"

Cheers ;)
 
Thanx alot Flat...I wonder if there would be a reason to NOT use one over the other. My music doesn't have any major quiet parts like some classical music would, for example. But some songs still do fade out or have stops where there is silense for a beat or so. So should I just play it safe and always choose one shaping over the other??? I think this topic is an exception to the "Just use your ears" rule because I wonder how many people's ears can really hear a difference of one shape over the other.
 
NYMorningstar said:
No need to do without Rami.
http://www.dc.umich.edu/dmc/emusic/Docs/Workstation/plugins/waves/L1.pdf#search="L1 manual"
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Awesome!!!! Thanx alot NYM. It's nice to have it back. Hehe...For what it's worth, I swear I bought it. Wavelab and the Waves Bundle were the first 2 things I bought for my PC a couple of years ago and I'm still using them. Thanx man. It seems that I might as well use Ultra. The manual says that "theoretically" it can cause some clicks if more processing is done after. But dithering is the last thing I do to a recording so I'm not worried about it. Thanx again, buddy.
 
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