Disable automatic envelope points

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OK. The envelopes (automation) in Reaper continue to be one of the most powerful features and the bane of my existence.

Reaper has this annoying habit of creating envelope points for me automatically. They are, without exception, completely unhelpful.

Situation 1: I've moved the volume slider on a track to the general area where I want it to be. Then I decide I need more fine-grained control, so I open the envelope panel for that track. An envelope point set to where I'd put the slider is created automatically, and the slider is reset to 0.

Situation 2: I have a media file in a track. It's a little bit too loud, so notch down the volume with an envelope around it. I copy-paste it a few times throughout the track and generally muck about with it. Later, I decide that it would be better in its own track so I move it to a new one. It tries to take its surrounding envelope points with it though and makes copies. Sometimes, it makes extra copies. Sometimes, there are as many as 3 or 4 envelope points in the exact same spot on this new channel. This gets especially bad if I'd tried to do something fancy like fading the volume up or down gradually.

Situation 3: I have a complex series of channels with routing and effects. I also notch down the volume in a few spots using an envelope. For a later project, I want to use the same routing and effects as a baseline, so I copy over the channels and delete the original media. With the copy come all the old envelope points, so I have to go through and delete them.

Anyone know how to turn off automatic envelope generation? #3 I can live with (since I'm copying the channel wholesale), it at least makes sense. But #1 and #2 are incredibly frustrating! I hate it when my software tries to be smarter than me!
 
Steve,

See if this will help your #1:
Go to Preferences/Editing Behaviour/Envelopes and uncheck:

"Add edge points when moving envelope points"
AND/OR [sic]
"Add edge points when ripple editing or inserting time"

This was a response to "I'm experiencing that when I move a selection of envelope points around, Reaper adds new points to the envelope."

This may not be a solution for what you are experiencing, but the discussion/problem sounded similar.
Dale

PS. Also check your setting for "When adding volume/ pan envelopes, apply trim to envelope and reset trim"
 
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Hmm... That sound like it just might work!

I'll try it tonight and get back to you.
 
Looking forward to your feedback. I am learning vicariously through your experimentation.
 
Yep. That did it. Thanks Dale!

Edit: Actually, going back and rereading. In my version (3.76) The settings are named "Allow writing automation to hidden envelopes" (for adding envelopes when moving stuff around) and "When adding volume/pan envelopes, apply trim to envelope and reset trim"
 
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Good deal. Glad it worked. I am using the same version as well. You probably figured out the forum's solutions were regarding the 4.0+ version settings.

Your question made me research an area that I have not used. So you made me smarter and taught me more about my version of Reaper.

Now let's see about #2 and #3. :-)
 
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