Digital piano help please

[Todzilla]

Anthony's statements are highly subjective.

I gave close consideration to the Yamaha line before going with a Roland RD-300SX. Was it a better digital piano? for me it was, but it's just a matter of taste. I find Yamaha feel to be too "spongy" and Roland's far more reminiscent of the Sohmer upright that I play regularly. And there are tens of thousands of piano players that feel Yamaha is superior to Roland.

But above all else, YMMV.

 

[warble]

As Sonic stated, a used S80 would be a great board. I own one and have no plans to ever get rid of the thing. Great feel - I actually look forward to playing it. It's feel is a little different than the S90 and newer boards simply by the fact that is has balanced hammer action (plays pretty equally from low to high) - not graded which heavier in the low-end, lighter in the high-end. I think the intention of the action was for playing more "synth" type sounds, but still offering great action & playability for the piano/rhodes sounds. Did I mention that I love my S80?

 

[Anthony]

Anthony's statements are highly subjective.

Do we characterize something as highly subjective when it becomes completely opposite from our own set of disciplines, or when all accepted concept excludes recognizable wis?

I hardly see how my opinion is more or less subjective then yours, as every individual statement is inevitably in a way subjective Per Se.

And there are tens of thousands of piano players that feel Yamaha is superior to Roland. But above all else, YMMV.

Tens thousands of piano players could fit this statement in relation to any brand, in fact I’m sure there are Tens thousands of Casio and Technics players exactly Content about their own choice

 

[warble]

Anthony's statements are highly subjective.

I gave close consideration to the Yamaha line before going with a Roland RD-300SX. Was it a better digital piano? for me it was, but it's just a matter of taste. I find Yamaha feel to be too "spongy" and Roland's far more reminiscent of the Sohmer upright that I play regularly. And there are tens of thousands of piano players that feel Yamaha is superior to Roland.

But above all else, YMMV.

Different strokes.....

I do like the new Roland pianos though. Played a RD700sx and thought to myself "what a great piano sound, but I wish I liked the feel of this thing better".

 

[Anthony]

Different strokes.....I do like the new Roland pianos though. Played a RD700sx and thought to myself "what a great piano sound, but I wish I liked the feel of this thing better".

Exactly, S90ES for me , offers the better keyboard, not perfect, but better. S90ES offers a very good piano also, but it is evident Roland created more priority making a piano sample. But in a way, Yamaha has more piano models then Roland , and more profiled segments in its piano offer, so this could be partly, one the reasons.

 

[littledog]

For those who may be interested, the S90 piano sample is much improved over the S-80. So any rating of Yamaha vs. Roland might change, depending on which Yamaha you are using.

 

[Anthony]

For those who may be interested, the S90 piano sample is much improved over the S-80. So any rating of Yamaha vs. Roland might change, depending on which Yamaha you are using.

Pardons,

I made a typo, I meant S90ES, I don’t bellieve I even tried S80. I like Half Damper cabability of S90ES, any user using FC-3 with S90ES?

 

[warble]

True about the sample quality of the S80 pianos, that's why an ES rack is a great compliment to the S80. The S80 samples worked for me for awhile and even garnered some compliments when I played live.

 

[zbert]

Well, to stay in budget I wnet with the p80. Great advice here but a bit to a lot over my budget. I was looking at the p90. I just could't over 1K. As this will be in the studio I plan on plugging the p80 to my Avalon U5. That should get me the sound and the weighted keys should do the job. If anyone needs a higher quality board I can always rent. Thanks again for all the great advice.

 

[littledog]

I'm a big Yamaha fan, and a big U-5 fan, but you might want to figure out an alternate signal path so that you can record in stereo. Sometimes Yamaha samples don't sum to mono very well. And given your budget constraints, I don't think a second U-5 is a reasonable option.

 

[zbert]

I do have two 2 channel pres. A Peavy VMP2 and a Toft ATC2. Not as good as the Avalon but not too bad either.

 

[littledog]

I do have two 2 channel pres. A Peavy VMP2 and a Toft ATC2. Not as good as the Avalon but not too bad either.

If you can spare one and they have DI's, that may be the best solution. And that way you can save the U-5 for the electric bass player.

 

[Anthony]

Well, to stay in budget I wnet with the p80. Great advice here but a bit to a lot over my budget. I was looking at the p90. I just could't over 1K. As this will be in the studio I plan on plugging the p80 to my Avalon U5. That should get me the sound and the weighted keys should do the job. If anyone needs a higher quality board I can always rent. Thanks again for all the great advice.

Not bad at all,

Don’t be sad about P90, you’ve got a nice machine.

Probably the simplest digital piano out there , in sense of using its options and accessing functions.

Kind of machine you power and play immediately.

Good luck, and many pleasant and creative hours/nights playing your P80.

 

[lminor7]

Digital Piano for a Pianist

For what it's worth,
I've been playing piano since the age of 7. I was horrified at the thought of having to switch to a digital piano because I moved to a smaller apartment so the old 6' grand I grew up with had to go.

I researched extensively and bought a Roland RD-600 from a composer who swore by it. He was moving to a larger apartment and could switch to a grand...

I do NOT mean the newer RD-600X. That piano was mediocre in my opinion, but the older RD-600 had everything I wanted in action, sounds, MIDI capability, and its only two drawbacks were the poor horn sounds and the fact that it is heavy.

I paid $600.00 for mine and after messing around with the new, lighter, sleeker Rolands, as well as all the other good digital piano brands out there, I do not regret my decision for a second.

Try one if you can find it. The grand piano settings are wonderful, and if you're using good headphones they will absolutely blow you away.

Hope this helps
Lminor7

 

[The549]

I have played paino for around 10 years, 5 on a very nice upright. I bought the casio px-300, and I am extremely happy with it. I am not a professional piano player, but I can't stand unwieghted keyboards, and this one does everything I want with a really professional sound for a great price.

This isn't a casio, if you know what I mean.

 

[Krakit]

If piano action or "feel" is your only concern, I wouldn't turn your back on the Casio Privia series of keyboards so fast.

Yes, I know Casio.

However, those of us that frequent Keyboard magazine's Keyboard Corner forum have unanimously proclaimed that the Privia series of Keyboards is the shocker of the centrury.

Mostly due to it's spectacular graded action.

Although it pains me to say this in public, I have to admit that the Privia is the BEST digital piano action I have ever played. Granted such things are very subjective, but for me there's no contest.

Do I wish it were a Korg, Roland, Yamaha or Kurzweil taking that particular honor? Of course!!!

It's embarrassing that a Casio can appeal to me so much and garner such high praise from me.

I too was (and really still am) a Casio snob. I still haven't purchased a Privia yet and the only thing (THE ONLY THING) that has been holding me back is the word "Casio" printed on the chasis.

I am seriously considering making the purchase and painting over the logo.

Oh and I forgot the best part. The thing weighs less than thirty pounds! Try to find another digital piano with weighted keys this light. I dare you.

The internal sounds are fair to good. Nothing really spectacular. The electric pianos are the best of the bunch. Still nothing so spiffy as to replace anything on the market over $500. Remember this thing as MIDI in and out so just use the Privia as a controller for that lovely lovely action.....

Carl

 

[Anthony]

Try one if you can find it. The grand piano settings are wonderful, and if you're using good eadphones they will absolutely blow you away.Hope this helps
Lminor7

Then you can only wish to experience RD700SX, Roland’s finest piano sample presently available.

Although it pains me to say this in public, I have to admit that the Privia is the BEST digital piano action I have ever played. Granted such things are very subjective, but for me there's no contest. Carl

Why on earth would you restrain your impressions?

I never liked isolated club elitism.

There is no reason in the world why Casio shouldn’t have at least one excellent piano and keyboard.

Casio certainly earned its fame in Synth department.

I have no idea what exact model of Privia you are referring, but I always like to check all new digital pianos out there, particularly those, one would miss by default expecting being average or not worthy with his Kurz/Roland/Yamaha…. house.

I was curios about Privia PX-500L while walking inside large music store, and noticed Privia, charming way for complete beginner to learn from the scratch.

Although keys illumination is nothing new, this Privia has such seductive purple illumination that makes you gaze like a monkey. Keyboard is very capable, wouldn’t leave my DPM C8 just yet, but very capable. It offers smooth fall with proper weight, not too harsh , not too light. Far from perfect, But fairly competitive with others

Those of you that are easily seduced with beautiful sight of old school 80’s spectrum analyzers, keep away from this machine, you might want one

 

[brucekdonaldson]

Say, DOC_KEYS! KX88 For Sale??

Say, DOC_KEYS! I'm interested in purchasing a KX88 (to replace a KX76 that I would sell). Is yours available? If so, how much?

 

[TeyshaBlue]

Any controller that sells for $399 is not going to have an action that will satisfy your piano playing clients. I don't need to play it to know that.

You probably ought to play the Casio Privia line...then you'd know you were incorrect in your assessment.

I looked at controllers till I was sick at looking at em.

I too, bought the Privia.


Don't discount this board or poo poo it's humble pricing. The action is beautiful, the tones serviceable, the Grand is quite nice, and it's ridiculously priced. I've had it for 3 months now. Best buy I've made.

 

[fova]

check this one out , CME are getting rave reviews i have never seen anything negative about them.

http://www.arbitermt.co.uk/cme/images/uf8.jpg

It looks cool , built like a tank and is supposed to be very good for the hammer action, piano crew

I havnt tried one yet but im tempted, going for piano lessons and playing synths at home is hurting me, takes me about 15 minutes in lesson to get used to the hammer action each time

Strange. My experience is totally opposite. I know several people who were dissapointed by CMEs hammer action. Its quality is very similar to M-Audio products.

I would say that in comparison with CME Casio Privia would be much better for a trained piano player.

For our band we bought Korg SP200 that has in my opinion better keyb and sounds then Privia. Now I would vote for Yammy P series since their prices felt down during a last year.
Especially P120 seems to a sufficient piece for each piano player.