digital ins and outs: S/PDIF vs. optical?

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Sorry for my ignorance, but can anyone tell me if "S/PDIF" outputs and "optical" inputs are compatible? I'm wondering if I can use my J-Station (S/PDIF out) with the new Yamaha DAW (optical in).

Thanks for any explanation.

J.
 
Optical can be one of two formats; ADAT optical which is 8 tracks or S/PDIF two track. Two track optical (refered to as TOSLINK) is S/PDIF. Just check to see what is what on your unit.
 
There are spdif/optical converters you can pick up for relatively cheap. Less than $100. fostex makes a good one. M-audio/midiman makes one as well.
 
Unless I miss my guess, the J-Station has a S/PDIF output on an RCA jack. It's not optical. You can't hook it to an optical input. The cable wouldn't even make sense. Sort of like trying to plug a water hose into your cable TV.

There are fairly inexpensive boxes that convert from/to optical, though, if you need to do that.
 
IIRC the Yamaha has two track optical. It will need a converter, but it should work.
 
Thanks, gang--your explanation is helpful to (digitally challenged) me. Making the shift from my Tascam cassette multitracker is challenging in more ways than one.

May I ask one related question? Do you think I'll really notice any audio difference if I record via my J-Station through the digital input on my Yamaha 16? (This assumes that I've bought the necessary optical converter, as instructed by you.) Or will the results be nearly as clear (e.g., noise-free) if I just run the J-Station analog outs into the Yama's standard analog inputs?

Questions, questions... thank God that some of you are out there.

Best,
J.
 
If you're doing mostly "crunch" type guitar sounds, you might not notice the difference. If you're trying for the cleanest sounds you can get, you would probably notice the difference. I say "probably", because I don't own either piece of gear (my wife probably wouldn't believe that statement)

Most mixer inputs, including the mixers in porta-DAW's, take line inputs and attenuate them to mic level, then put them thru the mic preamp and boost them back up to line level. I've always thought that this is a stupid practice compared to adding one simple switch for mic/line select, but it is still done...

Sooo, if you feed a line level signal into your porta-DAW, it will be attenuated and re-amplified, which adds noise. The input from the J-Station, which should be compatible with a guitar amp, is most likely a lower level signal than line level, and might not suffer as much from the un-necessary level conversion. Still, it seems really stupid to cut a signal so you can amplify it again...

If the J-Station has the option of full line level output, you could get nearly as good a sound by taking this line level output and plugging it into an insert point. This would bypass all the preamp stuff in the DAW.

Anybody who actually HAS one of the Yamaha 16's, feel free to chip in here if there AREN'T any inserts...

The SPDIF and optical digital signals in most gear bypass all the preamp stuff and assume that it's a line level signal. This would be the cleanest way to go for direct transfers, assuming that you can get the two to talk nice... Steve
 
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