digi001 might be crap

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hi,

I am about to buy a good sound card and I have been reading a lot about sound cards, and after settling for the digi001, I joined the user conference.

Apparently, Digi001 users do not think that it is comparable to other sound cards in the price range.

All the current owners agree that the 001 has crappy midi implementation as compared to other software,

many of the owners believe that Logic audio platinum has better audio control,

and some of the owners will tell you that you can get better sound from soundcards like the delta1010, the seasound solo, the Layla or the Echo mona.

WHy on earth would I buy this thing, when , for a few hundred more I can have superior sound quality, midi arrangement, and audio arrangement, with better pligins.

Ok, I will post this somewhere else, but can suggest the best soundcard out there. Right now, my list is the

delta 1010(no mic pres though)
Seasound solo(only two outs and two or four ins)
the Echo layla 24 or mona 24

thanks
 
I'm not interested in defending this or that Sound card-Software. How ever FACTS should be set straight.

I have read every post in that forum but have seen perhaps 2-3 users not happy with the sound quality. If my memory is correct one of them claims his 001 doesn't work om his computer and the other doesn't own the 001 but the Audio media III card.

The 001 midi is weak. DONT buy it for it's midi.

I'm sure some people are very loyal to Logi Audio and for good reasons - it is a class act software. In MHO after using Logic for years Pro tools is better,and easier.
I have read All the posts but have seen unlike you most users claim that PT is the better one for Audio. From my poor expereince - every second studio I walk in to is using PRO TOOLS.

Better Plug ins ? Have you heard the 001's pluings? the RTAS ones? again this is only a opinion but the plug ins are some of the best I've heard.

Dont be so influnenced by other people including me and go check things out for yourself.

Let me show you how easy it is to trash a different product just for the fun.

Every thing here is true
I see you are interested in the seasound.

* the controls are inconsistant - some are difficult turn others move freely. Seasound claim this is only true with the first batch.
* No word clock
* The preamps and converters are of Modest quailty ( a quote from a prominant mag )
* Converters sound a bit brittle and harsh ( another quote )
* To create a send return you have to do quite a bit of repatching.
* Documentation sucks ( quote )

You get my drift ? Dont listen to me. go to a shop and listen yourself. Check out what you do need and what you DONT need to get the work done and not what every shmo on the web say.
 
I was going to reply but really there's nothing to reply to. Do yourself a favor - check the numerous threads on the DUC that ask "Are you happy with your 001". Then read the myriad reviews in all of the major mags - EM, Recording, Sound on Sound. Then check the systems out for yourself.

There is probably no worse way to make an audio purchasing decision that to listen to what some guy you've never met says on the internet about a piece of kit. You don't know any of us, you don't know whether we actually own or use that kit. One of the most relentlessly negative individuals on the DUC is widely believed to not own a single piece of Digi equipment. Use the net to gather questions and basic info then go and use your own ears to decide.

The Internet is a bathroom wall - anybody can write anything they want anytime they want, anonymously. Use your own ears, make your own decisions.

Hey man, it's all good out there - this is an amazing time to be making your own music. Rather than looking for the negative, as the man says "accentuate the positive" and find what works for you make the most of it.

Peace. I'm outta here.

K
 
Very well said Gentlemen. Very well said.
 
hi,

I just read your posts, and even before I read them, I had decided to go with the digi001(after agonizing two whole days at work).

I wrote down the pros and cons of the digi 001 and here is what I found.

Cons:

Ok, it does not have 96khz rates.

It does not come with a bunch of plugins

it might not have as high fidelity as some other systems

The preamps on it sound a bit edgy.

there you have it: 4 cons

the Pros.
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For a system that will have everything that the digi001 has you have to spend at least $700 more( on 2000)

The pro tools audio interface is relatively intuitive and very easy to use

I don't need to buy a separate preamp or midi box.

It has a footswitch for one man operation.

It is 24 bit and not 20 bit.

It has some nice plugins and one can buy better plugins as you go along.

for $830 I get EVERYTHING I need to do some serious work.

The sound is comparable to systems costing up to $1000 more.

With the money I save, I can get a computer, or a mixer, or a focusrite platinum vocal processor with deesser, compressor etc

After all said and done, unless something drastic happens between now and friday, I am ordering me a digi001 system, and I will be very happy with it.
 
Perhaps to help you have a easy mind with your buy, you should know that the preamps are excellent,
In every pro magazine this was listed as one of the strong points.

I have reason to belive that ot will have a 96kHz option in the future. The hardware has the capability,

Enjoy it I'm sure youre going to be happy.
 
Congrats

Hope to see on the DUC soon. A lot of the regular posters over there are pros and are very helpful.

A couple of points - you're pretty much right about the plugs. It actually does come with quite a few Digi plug-ins, I just wasn't knocked out by the sound or the interfaces. OTOH a lot of folks do just fine with them. At the very least you might want to look at the Waves Pack that includes the Rennaissance EQ and Compressor.

Everybody's ears are different but I have to disagree with Shailat - the pre's sound brittle to me too. Edgy is a good description. If you're used to a Mackie (I've also got a 1202vlz) you can get by with them. A lot of my personal work is built around acoustic guitar parts and they were, well, edgy. I bought a PreSonus MP-20 a couple of months ago and was much happier (mics - Oktavas, SM-81, 57s and 58s - a better condensor mic would probably help my sound too).

Fidelity - the convertors are good as you'll find this side of Apogee. As for 96k, most pros I've talked to think it's hype and few use it. I'm not geeked up enough to discuss the finer points of the Nyquist curve but it doesn't seem like the increased resolution offers all that much. If you've got some useful info on it I'd love to hear it.

Good luck - gear's cool but it's still all about music.

Cheers

K

[This message has been edited by BigCats (edited 07-30-2000).]
 
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