Delta 44 driver question.....

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I currently am using ME (ugh) with a Delta 44.

The only driver(s) for this configuration appear to be MME. Are there WDM drivers which will work with ME (such as the one for Win2000)? I would really like to use WDM drivers, wouldn't I?

If WDM drivers for my ME/44 config are not available, what OS upgrade would be the consensus of the board gurus? XP? Win 2000?

Not sure if this is needed to supply an answer but I'm running:

1.4Ghz P4
512 megs RDRAM

Thanks in advance,

Earl
 
Just go to m-Audio.com and download the latest driver set. You should be able to use WDM, ASIO, MME, or DS.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Thanks but let me expand a little......

I've already been to the MAudio site. When searching for a driver, they ask you to specify product (Delta44) and OS (ME). The driver suggested by the search is Deltawin9x_22.41.EXE.

This is the driver I have installed. But SONAR 2.0 doesn't recognize my Delta 44 unless I check the box that reads "Use MME drivers even when WDM drivers are present". So, I'm assuming this driver (Deltawin9x_22.41.EXE) is MME.

If I search for the current driver for 2000 or XP, it suggests WDM5.10.0.26.EXE. I'm assuming this driver is WDM.

Have I muddied the waters enough?:D

Earl
 
If you want to upgrade your OS, Win2k or XP would be an immense improvement over ME. I guess XP Pro would be the way to go, but you may want to check the HCL first.
 
Well see they pack all their drivers into one download. The Win2k drivers, for instance, start with "WDM" but they include WDM, ASIO, MME, and DS. Could this be a Sonar problem?

I used the Delta44 on Windows 2000 for some time, and now use the Delta1010. They both work great. I prefer Windows 2000 to Windows XP (although that's subject to change over time), and it wouldn't be a "bad" idea to upgrade if you can do it. Just make sure that everything you've got will work!

Slackmaster 2000
 
pdlstl said:
Thanks but let me expand a little......

I've already been to the MAudio site. When searching for a driver, they ask you to specify product (Delta44) and OS (ME). The driver suggested by the search is Deltawin9x_22.41.EXE.

This is the driver I have installed. But SONAR 2.0 doesn't recognize my Delta 44 unless I check the box that reads "Use MME drivers even when WDM drivers are present". So, I'm assuming this driver (Deltawin9x_22.41.EXE) is MME.

If I search for the current driver for 2000 or XP, it suggests WDM5.10.0.26.EXE. I'm assuming this driver is WDM.

Have I muddied the waters enough?:D

Earl

98 and ME don't really fully support WDM drivers like 2000 and XP. I'd say you're better off upgrading your OS if you want WDM. Besides, ME is probably Microsoft's WORST OS in recent history. :(
 
I thought that m-Audio had WDM support for 98SE and ME long before Windows 2000??????????????

What about ASIO...can Sonar do ASIO?

Slackmaster 2000
 
brzilian said:


Besides, ME is probably Microsoft's WORST OS in recent history. :(

Yes, I've been gathering that from the posts here and at other forums. However, the WDM driver issue is the only real problem I've experienced.

One of the features I really like over 98 is the ability to view thumbnails of digital images in My Computer. Is this available with XP or 2000?

Also, am I correct in my thought that there are some security issues with XP?

Thanks for all the great help!

Earl
 
You could probably view thumbnails in Win98 by using Active Desktop, but they don't call it Active Crashtop for nothing. Win2k does do this though, as does XP.

IMO, the security issues in XP have been greatly exaggerated and are not an issue at all if you consistently go and check for updates. All operating systems have security issues, it's just that when you have 95% market share, it's more newsworthy.
 
Thanks.

From what I've read, I'm probably better off to do a complete install rather than upgrade/install over ME. Is this assumption correct?

If I need to do a complete install could someone tell me how to do this?

I have an 80 Gig external HD which I can transfer all the files I want to keep to.

Sorry for all the elementary questions.

Earl
 
You are correct about the fresh install, upgrades can lead to problems. First, dump all your files to your extra drive. Then format your c:\ drive to erase any trace of that abomination ME (you may have the option to do this during the installation of Win2k and XP - can't remember for sure). Then install your OS. It's relatively painless.
 
Yes a clean install is usually best.

If you're going to Windows 2000 then the installation is extremely easy. I haven't setup XP yet (my XP machines came pre-installed), but I'm assuming it's going to be very similar.

1) Make a backup of all your data to your big drive (just copy it that is). Gather all necessary Windows 2000 drivers, preferably on floppy disk.

2) Make sure that your OS disk is on the standard motherboard controller, and not on an ATA controller (like from Promise, Highpoint, etc).

3) (you can skip this step) *Carefully* disconnect power and data from the backup drive. Be sure to always have some part of your bare skin touching a metal portion of the case when handling any components! We're disconnecting this drive to avoid the most common problem of all: "oops."

4) Boot from the Windows 2000/XP CDROM. That's assuming that your system can boot from CD's, and it probably can. You might have to change the boot order in your system's BIOS setup.

5) The setup program run. After a bit of silliness, it will detect your hard drive and display partition and format information. You're going to want to a) delete the partition(s) b) create a new partition c) when it asks, choose to format with NTFS.

6) The setup program will partition and format the drive, then copy over all the necessary files and reboot your system. Windows will start up and you'll get to go through all those lovely configuration wizards and install all of your drivers. NOTE: device manager can be found at Control Panel->System->Hardware->Device Manager (just a little different from 9x)

7) Once the system is up & running and all drivers are installed, shut down. If you had your OS drive on an ATA controller, you can put it back now. Reconnect the big drive you used for backup and start the machine back up. Windows will automatically see the drive and you'll be able to access your files.

In most cases installing Windows 2000 is completely painless. In fact, I've found Win2k to have the best driver support of any windows version to date. Some hardware will basically "install itself" it's so easy. HOWEVER, you better make sure that you check all your hardware and software for compatibility before you get into this. At the very least, make sure you've got the drivers on hand to get your system back on the 'net ASAP.

Also, the reason I suggest that you disconnect your backup drive while installing windows is that I've just seen too many people zip through installations without paying much attention. If you don't disconnect the drive, then make damn sure you don't repartition or format it!

P.S. you can also do a clean installation by inserting the Windows 2000 CD when running Windows ME, and choosing to upgrade. It will give you an option to either do a clean upgrade or to upgrade preserving the existing system. I've done one clean install this way and it seemed to work ok....but basically the steps I outlined above still apply for the most part.

Slackmaster 2000
 
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