delta 1010 questions

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I want to record electric guitar from the direct (xlr) output in the amp. Is this even possible without going through a mixer? I was wondering if I could run this direct output to one of the rca inputs on the delta 1010, because the two xlr inputs would already be taken up by drums. Would a delta 66 possibly be a better option?

Here's my setup... I have a Yamaha EMX5000 powered mixer that I am trying to use because I can't really afford another one. It just has left and right record outputs. If I were to buy a yamaha mg mixer, though, would I have to buy an amp to power it if I am just using it for recording? I am recording drums, bass, and two electric guitars. I would like to do this all at once, but onto separate tracks. One idea I had was to run most of the drums through one output on my mixer and one electric guitar (this one must be miked) through the other output. If I bought a delta 1010, I would use the two xlr inputs for my bass drum and snare drum so they could be on separate tracks. Then I would still need to record another guitar and bass, probably using direct outputs, but my only inputs left are directly on the sound card, and rca. Does anyone have any better suggestions than this? thank you very much.

Outline:
1) Can I record an electric guitar using an xlr direct out by going directly to an rca input on a delta 1010?
2) Would I have to buy a power amp if I ended up buying a Yamaha mg mixer if I am only using it to record (I don't need it to put out any live sound)?
3) Does anyone have ANY suggestions on how to get all these things onto separate tracks so I can mix them. I am planning on buying a new audio card, but I am on a budget and can't really spend on anything else at this point. If I do in fact need another mixer, I guess I'll have to wait and save. Thanks for all the help!!
 
Well, it must be a nice guitar amp to have an XLR out... I've only seen that on Bass amps so far.

I'm sure you know that mic'ing a guitar amp is usually be best route to go, but I realize that that's not always an option.

To do what you want to do, you're going to need some adapters to get from one point to the other. Off the top of my head, could use a XLR female to 1/4" male, and then get a 1/4" female to RCA male adapter.

Being that it's an amp and not a mic, I'm going to guess that it's going to be at line level and not mic level, so it theoretically should put out enough

Also, does your powered mixer have any monitor options? If so, perhaps you could use your monitor outs into the Delta and get two more outputs.

For recording, you shouldn't need a power amp for non-powered mixers unless you are playing the mix through non-powered speakers.

A cheap alternative to purchasing another mixer would be to purchase some inexpensive preamps to get more mics on the Delta.
 
I don't think I have monitor options... There is a phones output, AUX send 1, AUX send 2, Mono out jack, ST Out jacks, and ST SUB out jacks. Will any of this help? I'm not sure if maybe the phones output could have the same use as monitor outputs... Thanks for the help.
 
I also heard the 1010 has some latency problems. Will this cause problems with Nuendo 2? how do I fix this?
Right now my sound card I'm using with Nuendo 2 is the Audiophile 2496. I am having problems right now when I record over one recording, the second is off timed (there's some delay) I can't figure out how to fix it...
 
You should be able to use the channel inserts out of that mixer into the 1010 (or 1010LT - not sure which one you're talking about). Whatever you do, don't put anything more than line level into your soundcard.

Neither of the delta cards have Hi-Z inputs, do direct recording your guitar will sound like crap. You really want to use mics like Alexbt said.

I'd recomment the LT - it's only $220 and will give you 8 seperate tracks. Make sure you're using asio drivers so you avoid those timing issues
 
Those RCA inputs are not RCAs. They are S/PDIF. Which means it is digital. So nothing you do is going to make that happen as you want it too.

I would just pick up a small mixer and run the outputs into the regular inputs on the Delta card.

fucanay
 
Thanks for all the help.

So for the S/PDIF jacks on the soundcard, I can just use some nice gold plated RCAs though, right?

Also, I think I'll end up with a Yamaha MG16/4 to use in addition to my Yamaha EMX5000. If I don't buy a power amp, which I won't unless necesarry, I won't hear anything I plug through the MG, but I can use the outputs from the soundcard to my EMX5000 and hear everything as normal for mixing. Let me know if I'm getting something wrong. I also want to clear up the outputs on the MG. I was looking at the manual, and what outputs do you use to get to the soundcard? Are they on every channel? I want to make sure I don't have them on my mixer right now. It looks like they're 1/4"... if this is right what are they called?
Thanks again.
 
Forget about s/pdif for recording electric guitar. You'll want to use the 1/4" analog inputs of the delta 1010.

Also I don't understand why you say you won't hear anything through the MG mixer?? All you do is run a couple of the delta outputs either back into the mixer or directly to your monitors.

The easiest way to hook up the 16/4 to the 1010 is to use the insert I/O jacks on the first 8 channels
 
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