Delta 1010 PCI vs. Digi001

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gkowal said:
i think i`ll go with delta 1010 then cause most of you guys kind of support it more then Digi001... that is good because i`ll be able to save that $200-300 and get better near-field monitors..=o) thanks guys!!
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I wish you good luck with your future system. :)
 
I completely agree with this. If you have a Neve console or a SSL or at least a Avalon pre - throw in a few Neumans for good measure you will probably see a benefit from 96K.

If - like most of us - you are using a $300 condenser with a $300 preamp recording in your bedroom you're just not going to hear it....
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i can here a major difference in clarity when recording at 24/96 and (32/96 when i use cubase vst32) i don't run no ssl or neve console(i got a tascam m1600/24), i did at the time have a nice avalon mic pre/eq/compressor that i got from a partner of mine and my artist recorded on my Se5000. we started recording at 24/44 but the vocals sounded a little muddy so i did some tweaks on the pre and ran again, it sounded better but under 24/96 it sounded much better... it could have been the avalon but recording at 24/96 i could here a major difference at my spot. i even kept the recording at 24/96 and played it in my dad's truck and it sounded better in there than the other songs, we might redo the other 6 songs at 24/96
I wish you good luck with your future system. :)
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well said :D
 
Well...

This future system I was talking about was the Digi System he's gonna buy when he gets tired of the set-up he is considering :D
 
the digi isn't bad..

if someone gave me a digi001, i'd use it. but if i had to buy one i wouldn't. its a decent card though. i just can't work with 24 tracks...
 
I can get around the 24 track thing easy...

I just mix down the first 24 tracks, then I import the mix into a New session and there I have 22 empty tracks along with my stereo mix.....If I notice something is off with the stereo mix, I just go back into it's original session and fix it in the mix and the re-import it... Lines up perfectly..

I know it sounds complicated but it works great!.. I have a song with like 100 tracks, and it was so easy....

I know the other programs give you unlimited tracks and all, but really how many independent tracks can your puter handle anyways... especially with the big plug-ins (I use waves gold)... So to me, unlimited tracks is a useless feature..

I get around it in my Digi very easily

Joe
 
"we started recording at 24/44 but the vocals sounded a little muddy so i did some tweaks on the pre and ran again, it sounded better but under 24/96 it sounded much better... it could have been the avalon but recording at 24/96 i could here a major difference at my spot."

I would bet it was the changes you made to the Avalon that made the biggest difference. But like I said before - if you HAVE a great pre in your signal chain you will probably hear some difference.

zip >>
 
I understand your point, it probably was the avalon. i want one so bad but i'm not spending 2100 on it rihgt now i need some other things
I can get around the 24 track thing easy...

I just mix down the first 24 tracks, then I import the mix into a New session and there I have 22 empty tracks along with my stereo mix.....If I notice something is off with the stereo mix, I just go back into it's original session and fix it in the mix and the re-import it... Lines up perfectly..

I know it sounds complicated but it works great!.. I have a song with like 100 tracks, and it was so easy....

I know the other programs give you unlimited tracks and all, but really how many independent tracks can your puter handle anyways... especially with the big plug-ins (I use waves gold)... So to me, unlimited tracks is a useless feature..
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naw i couldn't do that unless the mix was perfect. with nuendo i've had 121 tracks and effects/compression/eq on about 30-50 of them, my cpu would've take more but i didn't need anything else. with nuendo and no effects i'm sure i can get 200 tracks but i won't ever need 200 tracks.
 
I wanna hear...

....a Voxvendor song with like 200 vocal tracks! I heard one with like 40 - or 100 can't remember.

I do remember it sounds pretty damn cool.....

I also want an Avalon or a Universal Audio pre...

...but I too don't have that kind of cash...

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I think that one was 100 you heard Zip.. "In my head"

By the way.. how you been doin' man?.... Me?? Shitty.. Parent's split up a few weeks back... Thats why I haven't emailed you in so long....

I should stop being a snob an email you eh?.. ;)

Joe
 
You know, I like those Studer 24-track machines, but for $20 grand, 24 tracks just isn't enough. :)

Cyan, you know I worked in the audio industry, and I have heard 24 bit 96k many many times, compared to every other format out there. I heard it at tradeshows, in film post studios, and at manufacturer's test facilities. I have also heard 192 k off of a Pro Tools HD system. I would not lie to you and tell you there is not an audible difference to untrained ears... especially when the final output is DSD or DVD, and the consumer-end gear is extremely high-end. But in the systems I heard, there was a TON of monetary overhead required to reap the 96 k benefit. Most of these people were using high-end Amek consoles, Sony Oxford desks, or the equivalent. And their signal chains were ludicrous: for the entire price of my studio I couldn't have afforded the mic/cable/pre/compressor/1 channel of the desk/1 channel fo the recorder. We're talking *millions* of dollars of equipment to record 16 - 24 tracks.

Another thing you are not taking into account, is that when you go to 24/96, your track count/plugin processing power is going to be cut in half. Imagine your surprise when you get your new system, and you start recording at 24/96, and you aren't getting much more performance than you are with your current Celeron system. Maybe 8 more tracks and 12 more plugins. After a few listens to the horrifying results from munging your audio down from 24/96 to 44.1/16, I bet you are going to go for the power increase and forgo the gaudy marketing numbers.

I stand by what I said before: without a substantial investment, the project studio is not going to realize an audible difference between 24/44.1 and 24/96.
 
i'm just one of those guys that like bashing big companies cuz they're only out to make a buck at ur expense

"cuz i'm for the poverty neglected by the wealthy" nas

lighten up, u like it u like it, i heard it i didn't...plain and simple

:D
 
Teacher said:
i'm just one of those guys that like bashing big companies cuz they're only out to make a buck at ur expense

"cuz i'm for the poverty neglected by the wealthy" nas

lighten up, u like it u like it, i heard it i didn't...plain and simple

:D
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Teacher..

They are making a buck due to putting out a fantastic product...

It's hardly at our expense... If you don't like it, don't fucking by it, there is no buyers expense lost...

Pro Tools is the most popular computer based recording system used in world class studio's for a reason...

You think they just have smart salesmen who are good at scamming "dumb" studio owners....????????

Now that almost sounds as silly as your comments.. hmmm?

Buddy, if your gonna bash a company, have some reason, not just because everyone else is...

Notice that I only picked your post out of all of the Pro Tool-bashing posts to pick on...

I respected the other posts cause they posted reasons for disliking PT from knowledge and experience.....

Post here, Have fun here on the BBS, but don't post shit about stuff you know nothing about... It makes you look silly, and it annoys the serious posters...

Thanks..

Joe...

PS>And, yeah I am a dick;)
 
Vox, I think we're the only ones who actually like Pro Tools here. I don't know how I ended up on such an intolerant BBS, but it just happened that way.
 
Yeah..... I know..

Sort of like how everyone "hates" German cars, but at the same time dreams of driving a Mercedes-Benz....:D
 
JFogarty and Clark Griswold are in the "club" also....

There's 4 of us :rolleyes:
 
"I stand by what I said before: without a substantial investment, the project studio is not going to realize an audible difference between 24/44.1 and 24/96."

Completely agree...

Isn't that about what my opinion was?? ;)
 
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