delta 1010 help

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I'm using a delta 1010 and a yamaha mixer for my pre's. I have the CR outs on the mixer going to in's 1 and 2 of the delta. And then out's 1 and 2 on the delta going to the return's on the mixer. I'm using Cubase SX and I don't know how to set it up so that if I'm using 2 mic's they record on 2 different tracks. If I'm trying to record two vocals on two different mics, they are blended into 1 track in cubase. Does anyone know how I can set it up so that channel 1 on my mixer records onto track 1 in Cubase, and then channel 2 on track 2 and so on? Thanks.
 
i have an audiophile 2496 and basically what i do is pan track 1 hard left and track 2 hard right. connect the delta to your main outputs rather than your control room out...as for the delta 1010....you should be able to choose what track records where. I'm not sure how that works....but i think they work in pairs like 1/2, 3/4, 5/6,7/8 or something like that.....if thats it then panning track 1 on the mixer left and track 2 on the mixer right and then changing 2 tracks on cubase to record input from 1/2 should make them come in seperate channels...I've never worked with cubase so I'm taking a shot in the dark
 
Does your mixer have Channel Inserts or Direct Outs?

If so, that is where you should be tapping the mixer to go into the Delta. If mic #1 is plugged into Channel #1 on your mixer, take the insert or direct out from that channel to Input #1 on the Delta. And so on down the line.

If your mixer is large enough, you should be able to get 8 distinct tracks into the Delta 1010.

Your recording software should let you select the proper input for each track. These might be labeled "Delta 1/2 Left" "Delta 1/2 Right" and "Delta 1/2 Stereo." In this case, Left is equal to the Delta's #1 input, while Right is equal to the Delta's #2 input. Stereo would get you the combined signal of whatever is going into 1 + 2, and will record a stereo rather than a mono track.
 
My mixer does have channel inserts, but when I tap them to the delta, although the sound is still going to my monitors, it is not recognized on the meter levels of the mixer or my software. And the sound is no longer going to my software. Also, I can't hear any sound from my computer any longer.

I don't understand what would cause this since the returns from the Delta 1010 haven't changed.

How do you return the signal to the mixer so it can be sent to your monitors? And how is your delta control panel configured?

Thanks.
 
allenmertes said:
My mixer does have channel inserts, but when I tap them to the delta, although the sound is still going to my monitors, it is not recognized on the meter levels of the mixer or my software. And the sound is no longer going to my software. Also, I can't hear any sound from my computer any longer.
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If the Yammie works like a Mackie, in order to use an channel insert as a send, you need to only plug the jack in halfway (til you hear the first click).

Normally you would use a Direct Out for this application. However, many lower end mixers don't have Direct Outs. Therefore the Channel Insert is a way to get around it. It works the same way, except it isn't a balanced signal like a Direct Out is.

Try only plugging the jack in halfway on the mixer end. You should be OK with plugging it in fully on the Delta end.

How do you return the signal to the mixer so it can be sent to your monitors?
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What I do is to run the out signals from the Delta back into unused channels on my mixer.
 
Actually, the channel inserts on my mixer are balanced connections. It describes them as 'Insert I/O', and says that a 'Y' cable must be used.

Does that mean that I should plug one end of the 'Y' to the in on the delta and the other to the out? Would that send the signal to the delta and then back on the same channel of the mixer? Or is that just wishful thinking?
 
I would forget about the inserts and use the Mains out like distortedrumble suggested.

Plug your mics into channels 1 & 2 of the mixer. Pan channel 1 hard left, and channel 2 hard right. Plug the left Main out into Input 1 of the delta, and the right Main out into Input 2.

In the Delta Control panel you should now see 2 seperate signals light up the meters - 1 from each mic.

In your recording software, assign Input 1 to track 1, and Input 2 to Track 2.

Also to keep it simple, I suggest running the outputs from the delta straight to your monitors, or amplifier rather than back into the mixer, at least until you get the recording working properly
 
Bulls Hit said:
I would forget about the inserts and use the Mains out like distortedrumble suggested.

Plug your mics into channels 1 & 2 of the mixer. Pan channel 1 hard left, and channel 2 hard right. Plug the left Main out into Input 1 of the delta, and the right Main out into Input 2.
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This makes very little sense. First off, it limits you to a maximum of two inputs at a time.

Secondly, what are you supposed to do when you are recording to pre-existing tracks. If the outputs of the sound card are routed back to the mixer, the pre-existing tracks will be included in the Main Out signal, and therefore will be re-recorded along with the new tracks.

Why would you not use inserts?
 
So what about using a 'Y' cable with inserts. Would it work to plug 1 end of the 'Y' to the in on the delta 1010 and the other end to the out? Is that possible, to route the signal to the delta through the insert and back to the mixer with the same 'Y' cable?
 
If you did that you would be routing your computer (the source you are trying to listen to ) to the same track you are trying to record from. At best you will have some trouble between what level you are trying to record with what level you are trying to monitor because they are both controlled by the same fader.
If you only plug your 1/4 cable in till the first click you will only be accessing the tip connection of your tip / ring / sleeve I/O which will only be the send signal.

That is what dachay2tnr was trying to get across. Then simply plug your returns from the delta in to a few spare channels so you can monitor over speakers OR headphones from your mixer.
 
with my delta 1010lt , i use the inserts out of my beh,i mean yamaha mixer. i use an 8 channel snake into the respective channels on my sound card(1/4 to rca type ). then i use the out put from channels 1 +2 on the sound card to 2 empty channels on my mixer(panned hard left and right). i then route those 2 channels via the bus to my monitor amplifier. this way i can record 8 channels at once and have them monitored through the sound card. make sure that in your delta settings that you have the out put set to channels 1+2. you should have no problems this way. with your set up you would probably need xlr to 1/4 cables if you have balanced direct outs.
 
dachay2tnr said:
This makes very little sense. First off, it limits you to a maximum of two inputs at a time.

Secondly, what are you supposed to do when you are recording to pre-existing tracks. If the outputs of the sound card are routed back to the mixer, the pre-existing tracks will be included in the Main Out signal, and therefore will be re-recorded along with the new tracks.

Why would you not use inserts?
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Yes he's limited to 2 tracks, but at the moment he's just recording with 2 mics, so 2 tracks is all he needs right now.

And yes, pre-existing tracks would get recorded with the existing signal IF the soundcard outputs are routed back to the mixer and the signal is not kept away from the mains. That's why I suggest the outputs go straight to the monitors.

Keep things simple, and just get it working.
 
bulls hit is right....lets go with simple and effective while hes just using 2 mics....that way he can get his stuff done and when he has free time....the you can use trial and error and problem solving on the inserts
 
Bulls Hit said:
Yes he's limited to 2 tracks, but at the moment he's just recording with 2 mics, so 2 tracks is all he needs right now.

And yes, pre-existing tracks would get recorded with the existing signal IF the soundcard outputs are routed back to the mixer and the signal is not kept away from the mains. That's why I suggest the outputs go straight to the monitors.

Keep things simple, and just get it working.
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Routing the Delta outputs directly to the monitors does not allow for any volume control over them. Whereas routing them to the mixer allows the mixer's faders to control the monitor volume levels - including the ability to turn them off completely when recording. Exactly how do you turn them off when routed directly from the sound card? Pull the plugs??

As I said earlier, this makes very little sense. He owns the mixer, it has inserts, why not let him make proper use of it? Particularly since the minute he wants to record three tracks at a time, this approach doesn't work anymore anyway.
 
most monitors have on/offswitches...they can be turned on and off that way....faders in the software program can control the sound from the monitors....either the mixer or the software will work as to controlling the volume...at this point i dont see why he cant just take the easier route of recording so he can get it done....then let him figure out how to run 3 or more channels at one time....he only needs 2 for now.
 
distortedrumble said:
most monitors have on/offswitches...they can be turned on and off that way....faders in the software program can control the sound from the monitors....either the mixer or the software will work as to controlling the volume...at this point i dont see why he cant just take the easier route of recording so he can get it done....then let him figure out how to run 3 or more channels at one time....he only needs 2 for now.
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You guys really don't get it.

You can't lower the volume via your software if you're trying to record. How the hell are you supposed to hear the recorded tracks in your headphones if you turn the software volume down?

And as for the suggestion of constantly turning the monitors on and off - sorry to say but that's just kinda dumb in my book.

He doesn't appear to be asking for a fix so he can get a couple of tracks recorded before the weekend. He seems to be asking how to get his equipment to work. If I misread that, my apologies.
 
when i'm recording and use the headphones...i just turn my monitors off....its not like i have to click my heels three times, throw salt over my shoulder and say alakazaam! i just flip the power button....it doesnt seem like much effort to me....as for the inserts.....we've been the ones talking for the past few posts....i'd like to know has he gotten the inserts to work right....he has the correct information to do so....all we're doing is arguing different viewpoints of other methods and speculation.
 
Instead of using balanced cables and only plugging them in until the first 'click,' would it work the same to use unbalanced and plug them in all the way?

Also, if I'm routing the signal back to my mixer into 2 spare channels, how would I monitor those returns while recording without them be rerecorded? How can I monitor the signal through spare channels without sending those channels back to my main outs?
 
first question....No

Second question.....you turn the faders for the monitor down on the mixer and monitor through your headphones

third question..you turn the faders down and this will cancel their signal being sent to the main outs
 
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