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Ok, I've been using mixcraft for a while and I've come to the conclusion that it sucks.

I have Sonar 6 but I find it a bit difficult to use. on a separte note: If anyone knows of any good Sonar tutorials I'd give it a shot.

So here's my question: from best to worst, how are the user interfaces of sonar, abelton live, cubase and reaper?
 
I wonder if any one person has experience with all of them to make comparisons. Plus, they all do pretty much the same thing, so it comes down to price vs user interface. Then you're comparing different levels of DAW. Studio vs. Producer vs. whatevers...

I've got a really old version of Cubase (SE3) and the latest version of Sonar. I still use Cubase because I'm so comfortable with it and haven't taken the time to learn Sonar yet (for like a year now!!).

Why does Mixcraft suck?? Just curious.
 
I started out using a combo of Vegas/Sound Forge nearly 10 years ago and I've always stuck with that. Now I use Vegas 8.0 and Soundforge 10. I like how they work together :)
 
many of them have a 30 day free trial so you can try and see. Generally it comes down to workflow since the last thing you want to be worrying about is having to fight the software while you are in the middle of a creative process.
ACID Pro works for me (although I believe I am one of the few here) I could just do it. The ableton and pro tools LE software that came bundled with my gear just left me scratching my head and after a half hour of tutorials I still hadn't managed to arm a track to record so I threw them away.

Anyway the point is if one of them just clicks just go with it no one can really tell you which one you like and they all do basically the same thing so try a few of them and go with the one that feels intuitive
 
Chili said:
I wonder if any one person has experience with all of them to make comparisons. Plus, they all do pretty much the same thing, so it comes down to price vs user interface. Then you're comparing different levels of DAW. Studio vs. Producer vs. whatevers...

I've got a really old version of Cubase (SE3) and the latest version of Sonar. I still use Cubase because I'm so comfortable with it and haven't taken the time to learn Sonar yet (for like a year now!!).

Why does Mixcraft suck?? Just curious.
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For starters it seems to be having trouble on windows 7, It doesn't always load VST's (which could go back to the stability issues, but I'm not sure), and it seems to be lacking in features. And honestly I've been wanting to try something else for a while just to see.

I've got a software bundle CD lying around somewhere with cubase LE and abelton LE, and I already have sonar installed. But when it comes to sonar I might as well be a caveman. I'd be willing to try to learn it, I just need to find some instructions or tutorials for it. But for now I suppose I'll just fiddle around with Cubase and Abelton. My obvious choice would be pro tools but I would need an Mbox or something similar for that and there's no use buying another interface now that I have my Emu interface.

It's not terribly important, as I can still make do with mixcraft, I just want to browse around.
 
Bristol Posse said:
The ableton and pro tools LE software that came bundled with my gear just left me scratching my head and after a half hour of tutorials I still hadn't managed to arm a track to record so I threw them away.
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That's the way I feel/am. I'm willing to learn because I know that there are many more features n whatnot in those two DAW's.
 
Cubase LE 4 is pretty easy to use.

i dont know much now, but 3 years ago i knew alot less!
and thats when i started recording with cubase.

was very easy to make everything happen and is a good quality program.
has a good layout, everythings easy to find ect.

i havent used mixcraft so i couldnt tell you if its any better though.
 
I seriously cant see past Ableton...havent tried cubase but I don't imagine its much different than sonar...in fact its been playing catch up for a few years and is well pricey in comparison..

I couldn't load Live onto a new laptop I have for whatever reason (in fact the vista on it is fucked, cant even get wireless working) but managed to get Sonar up and running so i was recording on it the other day. I forgot how totly clunky these "traditional" DAWs feel compared to Live...

I have Reaper installed just out of curiosity...Greg and others use it well..it did nothing for me, imo it looked $60 worth and wasn't well featured even against my Sonar which is only the studio version

you can download a fully functioning Ableton demo..give it a shot, you may be surprised, they've even got a new essential version which looks great and is attractively priced

all IMHO of course :)
 
I've used Cubase and Reaper.
Reaper pwns. Just go get the download if you haven't already...
 
As someone said, most DAWs do pretty much the same thing. I don't think the differences between them are all that profound, and therefore I don't think one is any better or worse than any other.

However, those differences are important when it comes to how you go about thinking about things. You will generally find a DAW easier if it is written with a workflow configuration that matches how your brain works.

For example, with video, I have real difficulty coming to grips with any Adobe stuff, though I am like a pig in mud with Vegas.

I started recording with Logic, which, in my view, is brilliant for Midi. However, I am using Reaper more and more, which I also think is brilliant, and immensely powerful . . . but not so hot on Midi.
 
Yeah, they I had assumed that generally DAW's all did the same thing, some with more or less features. My only concern is user interface, (or as you put it, workflow).

Just wanted some views and opinions on different software.
Of course I know that everyone has different views and preferences and what not, but I'd still like to hear what people have to say.
 
I like Sonar. People pretty much use what they learned on, and switch out of necessity.
 
I've pretty much tried them all... starting with the first release of Cakewalk on an 8 bit sound card that cost a months wages... I really loved Logic, it was one of the more difficult DAWs to master, but only because of the incredible power and flexibility it contained... but I'm a PC, and when they went the way of the Apple I bounced around for a while until I found Reaper... Kind of my rebound DAW... but a keeper none-the-less. Nowhere near as powerful as logic, but on the same playing field as the big boys... for pennies on the dollar
 
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