DAW users ?

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This is more a question for DAW users.... After you complete you mixes in you DAW to you send it through any outboard gear/ or to analog tape to give it that analog noise/warmth whatever...


Or do you think that the general audience is starting to get used to that 'digital sound' ?


Raticus
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Like if a song recorded and mixed on a DAW equals digital sound for a fact..

My favourite set up would be (while saving for a major upgrade for when I've the time to pick up recording again): Recording on a DAW for the flexibility to cut up tracks and move them around.
Mixing on a console with outboard effects. I want to feel those faders and knobs with my own hands. And I don't believe that a plug-in can replace a good rackpiece yet.
 
What about this COntroll surfaces this will give you the feeling of knobs and buttons....

And I have heard that this UAD-1 Card got the Motts!!!!

Thanks for reply...

Raticus
 
I use Nuendo recording software to track and mix. I have a Yamaha O1V digital mixer with motorized faders to control the "fader's" in Nuendo and prepare the mix animation. This is in effect a Control Surface. It interfaces with the software via MMC, or Midi Machine Control. It works seamlessly, and flawlessly!

I prefer to get the sound I want for each track BEFORE it hits the hard drive, and this is accomplished with proper mic selection, placement, and a minimal amount of outboard gear. If I absolutely HAVE to use plug-ins, I will, but I do so in a very limited way for 2 reasons:
1.) I generally don't like the sound of plug-ins vs. quality outboard gear.
2.) My outboard gear selection for signal processing is very limited.
Once you have the sound you're after, there's little reason to process it post recording. In my findings, the less processing I have to do to a signal after its recorded, the better. However, at final mixdown, some processing is inevitable. I find I am usually able to limit that to slight compression of certain tracks. Right now, I am forced to do that within the digital domain.

You ask is the general public getting used to the digital sound?
Defining that "digital sound" could lead to a host of debates.
I think what the general public is not only used to, but somewhat demands, particularly in pop music, is an extremely detailed, almost overly hyped high end contrasted against a gut wrentching bass. Achieving that, either through DAW or Analog systems doesn't matter to the lay-listener.
 
I generally listen to mixes with a Cranesong HEDD slapped across the stereo buss inserts. I play with the settings and also engage the bypass switch frequently. About 70% of the time I end up using it, but the other 30% I find the mixes sound better without it.
 
Also a Nuendo User


Mr. Jones I tend to agree with you comments about the General listener...
I have also recently begun to do all of my signal processing prior to recording to harddisk and have been getting much better results than if I just use the software plugins....


? for u is if you had say about $ 700 would you add some more outboard gear or would you try TC powercore or UAD plugin solution... If you would of asked me this a month of go I would have said UAD but now since I have bee processing my signal b4 it gets to the hard drive I don't know anymore....



Little dog please enlighten me about the Cranesong Hedd not familair with it....


Raticus
 
Hmm, If I had $700 to spend, I'd probably save it up for a pair of these:
NTP_179_140_pair.jpg
(NTP 179-140 compressors)
 
jeronimo said:
Humm, I've never heard 'bout 'em...

Arguably the ultimate in analogue mastering compressors...

...sadly, no longer made. You hardly ever see these rare, Danish built gems up for sale any more, anywhere - as the few that were made are now residing at some of the finest mastering houses on the planet.

We were recently informed that one of the biggest fans of these compressors is none other than Bob Ludwig of Masterdisk, NY who has as finer track record and history as anyone! When you plug these babies up and listen to a mix through them you can soon tell why that is. The sound has incredible depth, warmth and solid 'in your face' punch! It is quite unlike anything else we have heard here (and that just about includes everything from Fairchilds to Crane Songs) Inside, they are mainly discrete using some of the finest components available including resistive networks - not inferior pots, for all the controls. This also of course allows for easily repeatable settings. or isomorphic operation as Focusrite call it...
 
Mr. Jones...

I did a little research on the NTP compressor....

Generally how would you use this unit? For mastering; indivdual signals?


Raticus
 
Well, I believe its primary use is as a mastering compressor, but I would think that you could use it as an insert or side chain after the mic pre to hold peaks and transients at bay.

I'm probably the last one on this board to take advice from on compression though.:(
 
Michael Jones said:


Arguably the ultimate in analogue mastering compressors...

...sadly, no longer made. You hardly ever see these rare, Danish built gems up for sale any more, anywhere - as the few that were made are now residing at some of the finest mastering houses on the planet.

We were recently informed that one of the biggest fans of these compressors is none other than Bob Ludwig of Masterdisk, NY who has as finer track record and history as anyone! When you plug these babies up and listen to a mix through them you can soon tell why that is. The sound has incredible depth, warmth and solid 'in your face' punch! It is quite unlike anything else we have heard here (and that just about includes everything from Fairchilds to Crane Songs) Inside, they are mainly discrete using some of the finest components available including resistive networks - not inferior pots, for all the controls. This also of course allows for easily repeatable settings. or isomorphic operation as Focusrite call it...

Wow! What is this a quote from? (Who wrote it, what publication, what year?)
 
Raticus said:

Little dog please enlighten me about the Cranesong Hedd not familair with it....


Well, you're not going to find one for $700, but check:

www.cranesong.com

The HEDD has a pair of world class A/D and D/A converters, plus the pentode and triode tube emulation pots. The newer version has tape saturation emulation as well.

Cranesong is a very interesting company, in that virtually every product they have ever made comes close to consensus acclaim by the pro audio community. Among other Cranesong products are the Flamingo mic pre, the Trakker compressor, and the new 8 channel Spyder, any of which should be on anyone's fantasy wish list.
 
littledog said:


Wow! What is this a quote from? (Who wrote it, what publication, what year?)
It's a quote from a secret place I know of that sells them. I always include the author in material I quote LD, but this one didn't have the source.
 
That Trackker looks interesting. Know anyone that uses one? Have you heard it before?
I'll have to research it some.
 
Thanks peeps ....

Learned about two new high quality vendors......


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Michael Jones said:

It's a quote from a secret place I know of that sells them. I always include the author in material I quote LD, but this one didn't have the source.

Well, let's see. It's an unknown author posting on a secret website written who knows how many years ago (at least we know it's before Bob Ludwig moved to Gateway in Portland, ME...)


Hell, that's good enough for me! I'll take two! :D
 
littledog said:


Well, let's see. It's an unknown author posting on a secret website written who knows how many years ago (at least we know it's before Bob Ludwig moved to Gateway in Portland, ME...)


Hell, that's good enough for me! I'll take two! :D
ROFL!
Well, you do have to consider the fact that the people that wrote that, also sell them.
Take it with a grain of salt.
 
And I live in Portland. I really gotta go talk to him sometime!
 
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