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I am new to this forum but have been an avid browser for months. Question for all you D824 users. First is the sound quality a major improvement over some of the older Fostex products i.e. FD8 (not withstanding the 24/96 capabilities). Two, what outboard gear i.e. mixer are you using? Would a 2 or 4 bus system work in a pinch? Thinking about picking one up but not sure. Thanks.
 
I have the D24 (haven't used yet), and the older D80. I can tell you that the 824 will be a great unit. works in a similar way to the D80. ive had no problems whatsoever. if you're used to pc editing, you'll find the copy/paste functions a bit of hassle, but the units do exactly what they're meant to, with no problems (yet.).
 
I think it is. The AKM converters used in the D824/D1624/D2424 are pretty highly regarded: do a search on "AK5393" and "review", and you'll get some feedback on the converters. They are used in a lot of products, as you'll see, not just the Fostex line.

Don't underestimate the usefulness of 24bit recording. As you improve the front end of your rig over time, you'll already have the recording capability to make use of it. It's a win.

As to how much board you need: that's entirely a matter of personal working style. I know people who could do magnificent work with that machine, an 1u rackmount 8-channel line mixer, and 1 single mic preamp. I'm not one of those people, though: I personally need an input per channel; I seldom mix to a bus on the fly when tracking.

Speaking strictly for myself: I prefer an inline board arrangement to be the most productive. Which is to say, one with separate mic-to-buss (or direct out) and tape-to-monitor paths. I do not like to spend time repatching from take to take: I want to punch go and _work_. However, that's just an artifact of my own working style. It's my opinion that direct outs on each channel are a more valuable feature than having a lot of busses: so yes, a 2- or 4-bus board will do just ducky, IMNSHO. Tracking one mic per track, and then bouncing down later works much better for me than mixing to a bus on the fly, and later realizing that the balance just wasn't right for the tune...

You can make *anything* work. However, you can make a lot of things work _better_ than some of the truly regrettable entry-level hardware out there. Don't know what your budget is, but don't scrimp on the mixer: Mackie, Alesis, the entry level Spirit line, the low end of the Allen and Heath line... lay hands on, listen, and try to envision how you intend to work. I'm probably going to scrap my Alesis Studio32 for a Soundcraft Ghost sometime in the next 3-6 months, just to have the greater flexibility: I didn't buy enough board to start with, so I get to buy one _twice_....

Hope that helps!
 
Thanks for the feedback. I'm currently using an FD-4 (front ended with a Mackie 1204) MIDI'd to an Ensoniq ZR76 with various outboard equipment. Am happy with the results over the past 3 years but the temptation of additional tracks and higher resolution is hard to resist.
 
Skippy,

Do you know if those converters were used in the earlier D80 and D160. Or how I can find this info out.

Peace.........ChrisO :cool:
 
No- they are at least one generation behind, according to this quote from Sound On Sound: "The input converters are 18-bit, 64x oversampling delta-sigma types with 20-bit, 128x oversampling converters on the output" (From http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/1997_articles/dec97/fostexd160.html).

A quick web search indicates that Fostex uses the AK5340 A/Ds on the D80/D160 family, which are indeed 18-bit. There are some claims on rec.audio.pro that the D160V2 has 20-bit A/D. However, even the Fostex web site for the D160V2 still claims "18 and 20-bit converters", so I suspect that that's not the case. After all, if they went to 20-bit A/D, you'd think that that would be a major marketing issue...

Anyway, the easiest way to tell is to pull the lid off and look.

-skod
 
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