D-16 Burners

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I'm using the D-16, which I love, but I'm having a Hell of a time finding a compatible burner. The list on KorgUSA.com is mostly made up of outdated and/or obscure models I can't find (aside from the Yamahas, which is what I may end up using). Anyone have any other information on what CD-R or CD-RW units are compatible with the D-16? Anything you're using that works?

Thanks much...
 
Poetdoc,

Like I have posted before (search my name and you will see) this is a problem I have dealt with. I ended up with the Yamaha burner and it works just fine. About $300 from dirtcheapdrives.com. I don't know anyone else that has used any of the other burners listed on the Korg site since 1) the other listed drives are so old as to be outdated and not available and 2) Korg puts the fear of god in you by saying that any other drive may not work and may even fry the d16. I suspect that Korg Japan will eventually test the Plextor 12X drive and list it as compatible, but by then it will probably outdated. Oh well, get one that is listed and be happy.

By the way, I am glad to see that you like the d16. I too am very happy with mine, since the V2 software came out. With the price dropping, I suspect others will be discovering that this small, very portable unit is a good buy for the money. Drop some posts and let us know what you are recording and how it is going. We must stick together or be forever pushed around by Roland/Akai users.
 
markert,

One question on using your Yamaha drive.

With the D16 are you able to both back up data AND master to this unit (burn a CD readable in regular CD players)?

I am looking to buy a D16 and was wondering if this Yamaha unit does both.

Thanks!

Jon
 
Chiledude:

Yes, you can also burn an audio CD with the yamaha burner. I would call it "mastering" only in the loosest sense of the word. But if what you want to do is record tracks to the d16 and then, using the mastering effects on the d16, make a demo quality cdr, sure it works great.

Word of caution - many DVD/cd players will not play CDrs burned from ANY cdr including the yamaha.

Go for it. The d16 is a lot of unit for the low price.
 
d-16 newbee

just got mine last week, seems to be alot of fun, fairly intuitive for 16 tr, wondering the consensus regarding mic pre's, are they warranted on the d-16, thinking about a at4033 & a joe meek. Ive tracked guitars seems fine, but bass needs compression going in. How do you like the effects ? Insert page seems a bit of a maze,but I figure i'll get it down. Anybody know if the demo songs are taking up space on the disc ? You got to think at this price there will be more of us...
 
I feel the momentum!

Tojoe:

Welcome to the d16. As for your comments. Yes, I think the effects are pretty good, especially since there are no extra effects cards to buy. I usually record guitars thru a Millenium J-Station, so I don't use the guitar effects. I record the bass directly using one of the bass multi effect presets. I record most drums and vocals dry. When mixing down to channels 1-2 in prep for cdr burn, I usually will use master effects 1 and 2 for reverb and final effect set to one of the multiband limiter presets such as "RemasterLA" or "StMBLimiter". The mastering effects really polish the stuff up. While mixing I usually set the effects input status to "track" and select the 1 in 1 out X 8 so I can put chorus on backing vocals, flanger on guitar, etc. Yes, you will get the hang of the effects insert page. Once you get used to the touchscreen you will be flying thru pages and won't be able to live without it.

The auto fade in/out is handy also. The timestretch sounds like dog dookie (hey, it can't work miracles).

The pre's are ok. All my mic's go to a mixer first, but I have used just the d16 pre's before. A little noisy, but probably expected for the price.

Yes, the four demo songs are taking up alot of disk space. With the d16 you will find that you definitely need an external cdr for data backup as well as audio cd burning. I backed up all the demo songs and then deleted them to free up some disk space. So, save your pennies and get an external SCSI cdr. I got the yamaha 8424 from dirtcheapdrives.com. I assume your d16 came with the version 2 software. If not, get an external drive and update the software immediately.

Sorry to ramble, but its nice to finally see some d16 action here.
 
Markert:

Thanks for the reply.

So you're plugging this Yamaha burner directly into the D16 SCSI port? No computer involved? (I'm looking for a completely self contained portable setup)

I'm definitely sold on the Korg!

Thanks again.

Jon
 
Markert:

I was just looking at all the external SCSI drives (Yamaha) at dirtcheapdrives and they all seem to require either a computer or CD mastering software in order to burn audio CDs.

I will be buying the D16 soon but am wondering if I will be better off with an ORB drive for backup and a Philips CDR775 for burning/copying demo CDs. I'm hoping the Yamaha 8424 solution works as it is less expensive.

Any thoughts?

Jon
 
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Chiledude:

Don't know about the orb drive and Phillips burner. But I can tell you that the yamaha 8424 external cdr/rw drive I got from dirtcheapdrives.com works for me. Yes, it does hook directly to the SCSI port of the d16. The drives may ship with software since they assume you are using it with a computer, but you do not need it since the d16 has internal software.

I do like the portability of the external drive. I can put the d16, the burner, some mics, cables, my millenium J-station recording amp, and some cdr media all in a large suitcase. I can record demo tracks on location and mix/burn a cdr for them at the end of the session.

Be very careful. You will probably be able to burn audio cd's on the Phillips via the digital(optical) stereo out of the d16, but you will not be able to backup track data. I guess that is what the orb drive is for, but if it is just a harddrive, it will eventually get full. CDr is cheap!

Now, if you are like me and have full blown GAS (gear aquisition syndrome), you can buy the simple yamaha cdr now and start saving your pennies for an alesis masterlink so you can master and burn good audio cd's in the future.
 
Thanks!

Yeah, after looking at it a little more I was able to determine that the Yamaha CD/RW is my solution. Portability has been a key issue for me which is why I'm going to start out with the D16 as opposed to a DAW. Looks like the Korg will keep me busy for some time.

Now if *only* someone would make a great battery pack for this rig, I could take it anywhere!

Jon

PS Yes, I have bad GAS and that Masterlink looks pretty sweet!
 
Sony CDR

The D16 rules. So little space take, such high quality (though I'm using external mic preamps - dbx 386 and compressors - spl dynamaxx).

Watch for the Sony CDR-W33 - it'll do most of the Masterlink stuff at 1/2 the price (about $750 list price) - shipping soon. The CDR-W66 is even better, but more exp.

See ya and have fun.
 
confused

I'm confused. I was also thinking of gettting a D16, and I figured I would buy the CD-R that Korg sells as an accessory to the D16. Why did you guy not just buy this one. Is there something it cannot do compared with the Yahmaha you are talking about?
 
Until recently, Korg did not have a cdr burner that they sold themselves. The ones they have now seem to have appeared about the same time the d1600 came out ( very recently). I don't even know if they can be used with the d16, since (i believe) they are made to go into the cdr internal bay of the d1600. I have a feeling the d16 will be discontinued soon. The main differences the d1600 has are 1) much bigger hard drive, 2) four of the eight inputs are xlr rather than two , 3) sixteen individual faders instead of twelve with the d16 (last eight channels of d16 are stereo paired), and 4) slot for internal cdr option. Probably, the d1600 is worth the extra money, but not if you already have a d16.
 
8424?

Hey markert,

I was looking for the Yamaha 8424 as you had talked about on dirtcheapdrives.com but could not find that model. They had the 8824, but not the 8424. They also had a lot of different versions of the models such as EX, PX, and SX and I'm not sure which is the best one to get for the D16. Could you give me the specific model number? I want to make sure the model I get will work with my new D16! By the way, it is awesome!

Thanks.
 
Westermane,

I looked at my owner's manual and it is for a yamaha crw8424S. I belive when I ordered it, it was listed as the 8424SX. I think the "X" means they put it into a generic external case. What you are experiencing is the unstoppable march of progress. The 8424 is probably no longer made and has been replace with the faster 8824. I don't know, but if you call dirtcheap drives, they could tell you. Unfortunately, by the time Korg lists the 8824 as compatible, it will probably be obsolete and unavailable. Catch 22. Would the 8824sx work? I don't know, but if your d16 is under warranty maybe you could hook it up and, if the d16 explodes, play dumb and send it in for repair. I wish I had a better answer, but sometimes you just have to gamble.

By the way, I am still waiting for the 6 gig toshiba hard drive I ordered to replace my original 2.1 gig internal drive. Talk about a leap of faith.

PS. If you do order an external drive, explain clearly to the saleman what cable you need. From memory I think it is a scsi connector at one end and a D-sub 25 pin male on the other end. Check the manual.
 
Now this is cool

Westermane,

I found this cool post on the korg d16 bbs on egroups.com. This guy has evidently tested lots of cdr burners on the d16. He says he is the product support guy for Korg Canada.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KorgD16/message/657

Record and be happy. When you get your burner going, maybe we can exchange some disks recorde on the d16.

Markert
 
thanks!

Thanks for the info. markert,

After reading over many postings on the link you referred me to, it looks like a lot of people have been using the 8824 and have had success with it - so I'll probably go ahead and get that one. The D16 is great, but I still have a lot more learning to do to realize its full potential.

Thanks again and happy recording!
 
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