Cubase Vs. Protools vs. anything else

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Hello-
I'm setting up a home PC Studio running off of an Audiophile 2496.
I plan to mix on my computer.

1. What would be the best mixing software for a novice to learn and mixdown tracks. why?

2. What would you recommend as the best way to try to learn how to mix? thanks!
 
I recommend Pro tools LE. It's really easy to learn and plug ins from every company known make plugins for Protools, plus any LE file and audio tracks will be compatable with any studio running PT TDM should you decide to mix at another studio. Industry standard!
 
I kind of liked Cooledit Pro 2.0, but I think Pro Tools is better. They are the only two I've used.
 
i don't think the audiophile 2496 will work with protools LE.

You could get the Mbox, use the audiophile with another software for tracking, then dump the wavs in to protools.

I use protools, very easy to use, first program i use for recording, picked it up first day.

Chris
 
pro tools software is to limited IMO.
the only thing good about it is the bomb factory plugins..other than that.. Vs Nuendo,Sx, Samplitude 7.. the program is garbage..
 
Nuendo does it for me. I don't mix in the PC though. I just edit there.

Kirk
 
He means that pro tools LE can only be run by using the digi interfaces ie: 001, 002, and Mbox (not including PT free). You can use these interfaces in conjunction with other software, but not visa versa. For example you can run cool edit pro and use the 001 for an interface (only 2 inputs for PC though), but you will not be able to use say a Motu 896 or audiophile 24/96 for an interface for Pro Tools.
 
Digidude824 said:
He means that pro tools LE can only be run by using the digi interfaces ie: 001, 002, and Mbox (not including PT free). You can use these interfaces in conjunction with other software, but not visa versa. For example you can run cool edit pro and use the 001 for an interface (only 2 inputs for PC though), but you will not be able to use say a Motu 896 or audiophile 24/96 for an interface for Pro Tools.
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But you can use better convertors with ADAT light pipe, or the SPDIF, can also use a different midi port.

Its only limited to audio interface, but you already got that.

What can nuendo do that protools can't?

beside VST plugins
 
actually that isn't want i meant...
the SOFTWARE vs Nuendo/Sx/Samplitude is limited.. the only thing good with protools is the aftermarket plugins..
nuendo/sx/samp do everything protools plus some...
i can't work with PT5.32, i was working on a hd3 3 days ago.. its a great unit.. but is it really worth the money...imo.. no... it is very easy to work with and has loads of dsp power though
 
Digidude824 said:
He means that pro tools LE can only be run by using the digi interfaces ie: 001, 002, and Mbox
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Not true. You can use any interface that has Adat optical. You could even use the $3000 or so Protools HD interface if you wanted to I believe, since it has an adat optical interface. You could use adats as interfaces...although they're only 20 bit unless you have the alesis adat hd which will convert up to 24 bit. You can use the yamaha digital mixers that have adat lightpipe interfaces. You can use the focusrite octopre 8 channel preamp with adat lightpipe.

The list goes on.
 
c9-2001 said:
actually that isn't want i meant...
the SOFTWARE vs Nuendo/Sx/Samplitude is limited.. the only thing good with protools is the aftermarket plugins..
nuendo/sx/samp do everything protools plus some...
i can't work with PT5.32, i was working on a hd3 3 days ago.. its a great unit.. but is it really worth the money...imo.. no... it is very easy to work with and has loads of dsp power though
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You say its better, but you haven't meantioned any benifits.

I have protools LE Synced with Reason, and i think this is a very powerfull system.

I checked out SX, to much work to record 1 track!

So convince me, what makes steinburg products better?
 
The summing. The sound. Just the improtant things to people who don't have to run prostools to get business.

Kirk
 
nwsoundman said:
The summing. The sound. Just the improtant things to people who don't have to run prostools to get business.

Kirk
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The summing? really, So your saying nuendo digital summing is up to par? hah.

Digital summing all together sucks.
 
Beside you can improve summing by getting a better word clock which you would have to do with neundo or protools LE hardware. Wait Nuendo doesn't include hardware, $1000 for software, i think not.
 
I never said it was up to par. I did say I don't mix in the PC in my earlier post. I also said I would rather mix on a mackie than on computer too. This was a pro tools vs cubase ect post. I say that Nuendo is better at summing than pro tools. I think Nuendo sounds better than pro tools. That is all.
 
You know, considering all the other things that affect sound quality in a recording, I don't think the "sound" of a software would be a major concern for most home recers...
 
Just so you know, a better word clock will NOT absolutely NOT make any difference for offline summing. If it does, your software is in MAJOR dissarray. And although I really REALLY dont like to work in Nuendo, the summing IS far more accurate than PT and you can prove it to yourself...

take a signal, any signal, turn it down on the channel fader by 6dB, now find another gain stage in the app and turn it back up by 6dB...you oughtta have zero gain change, and in PT its not the case. In nuendo it IS

But Im a vegas user myself so you digidesign and steinborg guys can fight it out amongst yourselves :)

I just needed to jump in when I saw some facts being burned
 
solit said:
Hello-
I'm setting up a home PC Studio running off of an Audiophile 2496.
I plan to mix on my computer.

1. What would be the best mixing software for a novice to learn and mixdown tracks. why?

2. What would you recommend as the best way to try to learn how to mix? thanks!
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To answer your question...

Since you already have an interface, Pro Tools LE will not work with so it is not a cost efficient option- regardless of its merits and short comings. If you ever need to move to a pro studio, you can always burn your tracks to wave one at a time and transfer them over the PT.

I've used Pro Tools LE, Cubase SX, Cubase VST/32, Cubasis and N-Track. I've played around with CakeWalk Pro Audio 9 a while back, too, but never really used it. Of these, I'd say your most powerful option is Cubase SX. Its flexible, fairly easy to use, and there are lots of decent plugins availible for it. Its also based on the Nuendo audio engine, for what its worth.

Your cheapest option is n-track. I think its about $60US and offers you all the flexibility of the big shots, but isn't as stable. I typically recommend starting with this one before shelling out for a more expensive program. Learn what you want to do with n-track and buy the right program when the time comes, if it comes. I used it for a year before going Cubase due to a hardware upgrade.

All the talk about digital vs. analog summing is amusing, and true enough, but fact is that most of us don't have the cash or hardware to route 24+ tracks into seperate, high quality analog channels. Since you are mixing in your computer, rest assured that most folks won't be able to tell the difference and you'll get plenty good sound quality of whatever program you end up using. They all work about the same, unless you want to consider some very expensive options.

Take care,
Chris
 
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