Crappy Room Dimensions?

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I have heard that square rooms are the worst to have for audio. Does it apply for mixing environment as well? I don't have alot of options so I ended up with a square room for recording in (see attached .bmp. Sorry about the picture.) and a rectangular room I will convert to control room. I have been mixing in one quadrant of the square room and have been having a difficult time. Is there anything I should do to the Square room to help in the quality of recording? It's just plain drywall at the moment, and it doesnt sound the greatest. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
 
everyone correct me if i'm wrong

but i think the main worry about square rooms is the potential for standing waves.

Between two parallel walls, there is the possibility for a standing wave. This normally equates to a frequency that tends to stand out more than any of the others.

Of course, if you have a square room, your getting two sets of parallel walls which have the same frequency (can't think of a better word) 'problem'.

I using some of the wall units described here (http://www.locall.aunz.com/~johnsay/HR/index1.htm)

The great thing about these units is, not only do they help with absorbtion, but because of their shape, they halp with diffraction issues. (Stop the parrallellism of the walls)

Try it.

And ive talked crap at any point, please point it out to me.

cheers,

R
 
Rochey is right in that parallel walls cause standing waves. However, with room dimensions, what you really want to achieve is an even distribution of room modes (particularly in the low end). The problem with a square room is that you are going to have room modes (aka standing waves) pile up around the same frequencies causing big spikes or dips in the response. Just because a room is rectangular doesn't mean you won't have room modes pile up either. There are some calculators floating around the net that you can use to figure all that out based on the dimensions. I think you've made the right choice by picking the rectangular room for your control room. I would suggest putting your desk and monitors along the short wall and treating the side walls with some thick foam to control early reflections. That way the reflections off the back wall will be delayed longer and won't destroy your imaging. Just make sure everything is symmetric around your monitors.

Now, there is a lot of talk about splaying walls and such which can help deal with flutter echo and to a lesser degree with standing waves by introducing some diffusion. However, splaying walls will generally not help distribute room modes very effectively, it just makes them more difficult to predict. I'm also of the opinion that the space you lose by splaying a wall could probably be more effectively used by contstructing diffusors or absorbers to specifically deal with the problematic modes like Rochey suggested.
 
What is splaying? Never heard of that. So the standing waves affect tracking rooms the same as the mixing environment I take it. I seen the plans for the diffusers and absorbers but I'm not really sure where and how many I would need. This stuff is really confusing. As far as using the rectangular room for the control room, I thought that would be best but wasn't sure how far apart my monitors have to be. I only have 8' and I'm pretty sure I shouldn't stuff them into a corner.
 
Splaying is just a term for angling a wall with respect to the opposite wall.

I'd venture to say that the colorations that occur from standing waves and such are more critical in the control room than the tracking room. You can always be creative in tracking with gobos and blankets and placement, etc. but if your monitoring environment has problems, you will have trouble getting any of your mixes to translate properly.

For your control room, you could stick the monitors in the corners with the corner behind them sort of closed off and filled with insulation to act like a bass trap. The dimensions of your control room are very similar to a friend of mine. He got some advice from a pro studio designer and thats what he suggested.
 
Yeh, like the corner absorbers on the DIY page. Can't wait to build the control room to see if it helps my mixes any.

Thanks guys.
 
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