Cool file management workshop

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JusumPilgrim and Scott Tansley obviously know a lot more about this topic than some of us here, and so I know that they'd be all too happy to share some of that expertise with the less enlightened Coolers in this forum. (I count myself as a less enlightened Cooler. :))

Let's do this one question at a time.

First question: so - you open a new session and record a track. Then you delete that track and re-record over it. When it comes time to save the session, is there any need to do anything other than click on Save Session. Is there anything that needs deleting first, or afterwards, in either Cool or Windows Explorer?

No, right?
 
Thank you. Despite the fact that I don't know you, and despite your somewhat dubious nick :D, I'll assume you know what you're talking about. :)

Okay, next question. Am I right in thinking that the simplest way to avoid Cool file management problems in the case of sessions that you have:

1 first recorded and saved

2 later opened and changed in some way (maybe deleted a track, for instance, and recorded over it)


is to use the Save As feature and save the whole session with a new name (which then gives it a new session file, which prevents confusion between the original session file and the actual contents of the new version of the session). If you know what I mean. :D
 
Actually, If you don't do a "Close only non-session waveforms" before saving the session, It will save all the recorded takes..even the ones you deleted in the session...
 
Well, I've been wondering about that command for a while now. On the face of it, it doesn't make any sense. If you click 'close only non-session waveforms' before you save the session, how does Cool know what's in the session and what isn't?
 
Whatever tracks are not in the session when you click on that command..ie..anything you have deleted from that session...
 
Sorry I didn't respond here earlier. Missed the thread.
Im not saying im some sort of gury to file management but here's a few things to consider.
Never trust any software to name your files for you. One thing all software has in common is the "save as" button. The save as, allows you to save a file as whatever name YOU want. So after recording one ore more tracks at once, you start saving it by double clicking on the first track which puts the track (or wav file) in the wav editor. In there you can saveas whatever filename you want. Then when you go back to multitrack view the wav file is still in the same track but now its called "overhead drum 1" or "vocal a" or something. Save all your tracks this way and then save your session (mix file). Having logical and descriptive names for your wav files makes it easier to know whats going on and easier to back up as well. I always set up folders from the main mix folder for the given song. Folders like drums, guitar, vocals, bass, etc. And then make sure my drum tracks are named apropriately and saved in the apropriate folder as well. When I make a change to the Track (file), I will save that as "overhead drum 1_ed". I never save over the original wav takes. That way I can always go back and start again with the mix without having to re-record. And I will know exactly where to look for it since I named it with a more obvious name like "vocal b.wav" instead of trying to find a track called "track 19 (7).wav" which you would have to listen to if you want to know what it is. In cooledit 1 and 2, you can name the tracks in multitrack view before you record. That way when you double click the track (wav file) into the wav editor to save, it will already default to the track name in the saveas dialogue. Second and third takes might look like this:
overhead drum 1 .wav
overhead drum 1 (2).wav
overhead drum 1 (3).wav

So just remove the (2) and saveas in the apropriate folder.
D:/songs/threeblingmice/drums/overhead drum 1.wav

When you finish recording you save the mix. And nothing happens apart from the fact that you save the mix. However when you go to exit the program, it asks if you want to save all these other tracks, or takes. They will be files with bracketed numbers in them. Say no to all and exit cooledit. Then restart cooledit and load you mix up again. Check in your orginiser window that the wavs are saved in the right folders by clicking on show full path. Just to check that everthings in order.

Now you have an orginised mix. When backing up the mix you can save the drums and guitar on one cd and the bass and vocals and mix files on another cd and so on. This makes it a breeze to bring back mixes from cd backup. Since the entire setup can be viewed in explorer.

I have a template.ses file that has the 7 or 8 drum tracks already named and setup to record drums. Its actually an entire folder setup as well. That way half the works done before I even start.

This is the way that I work and its very simple and I haven't lost a track ever. I recently loaded up a few songs I had backed up from a few months ago to redo some guitars. They loaded up perfectly and I even had some presets saved and notes about the mix to go on. Simple.
 
Nice tips scott..There is an easier way to rename your files..Just right click on them in the multitrack view and go to "waveblock properties"(ver. 2) and rename it there.

If you do a "close only non-session wavsforms" before saving your session..all the old deleted takes won't be saved..so u won't have to say no to all when they reload,,,cuz they won't be saved..
 
" Nice tips scott..There is an easier way to rename your files..Just right click on them in the multitrack view and go to "waveblock properties"(ver. 2)
and rename it there. "

Yes. true, but it doesn't actually save them at that stage. you have to save your mix and then it asks if you want to save the renamed files as.....

But I think I like your way better. Sound even more convenient!

Scott.
 
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