Condenser?

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I was wondering the neccesity of using a condenser/pre amp with recording vocals with all the effects and editing tools available in cool edit pro. Im trying to make an informed decision on my budget here. Do I just need to learn how to use cool edit better to get the fine tuning on my audio or should I drop the bills on a good preamp and condenser. Any information at all would be appreciated Thanks
 
You can't "fix" garbage with any recording/editing system. Garbage in, garbage out. There's no substitute for a good input to any recording medium.
 
My friend,

There's a whole forum dedicated to this type of question- it's called MICROPHONES

Dobro, will you do this gentleman a favor and relocate his post?
 
PABLOCK said:
Do I just need to learn how to use cool edit better to get the fine tuning on my audio or should I drop the bills on a good preamp and condenser.
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you need to do both. audio doesnt record itself, it will take some effort.
 
"Dobro, will you do this gentleman a favor and relocate his post?"

The mic forum, or the Recording forum maybe. But he'd just the get the same advice there, and maybe a rougher ride as well LOL. He mentioned Cool Edit in his post though, so I think I'll just leave it here.

Pablock - you're getting good advice here. If you use a crappy mic, then all the tools in Cool Edit won't be of any use to you in terms of getting a good sound. Use a crap mic and you get crap sound that no software or hardware can fix. So, get the best mic you can afford, yeah. And then learn how to use it - learning mic placement takes time and effort and experimentation. And *then* when you're getting decent sounding recorded tracks, start learning how to edit them in Cool Edit.
 
New mic

Im getting a SM57 and a AKG3000. Still deciding on the whole preamp, condenser, eq deal. Im just recording vocals.

What I meant by my question was whether the plug ins from Cool edit pro are better to use than pre editing with an eq and condenser. Is it worth spending the money or is the difference negligible.

Thanks
 
"What I meant by my question was whether the plug ins from Cool edit pro are better to use than pre editing with an eq and condenser. Is it worth spending the money or is the difference negligible."

If you EQ and compress tracks as you're recording, then they're EQ'ed and compressed that way, and there's no undoing what's done. But if you record things as naturally as you can, you have loads of choices later on - you can EQ or compress or effect any way you want to get the sound you want. It's not a matter of one or the other sounding better right out of the gate - it's a matter of you having the flexibility to work with what's been recorded to get the sound you want in the mix.
 
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PABLOCK said:
What I meant by my question was whether the plug ins from Cool edit pro are better to use than pre editing with an eq and condenser.
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I think you're confused, but that might be my confusion over your use of the term "pre editing"...which is a contradiction in itself.

Bottom line is, those things aren't mutually exclusive. Yes, you need a decent condeser, and yes, you'll need to use some plugs even after you've recorded something brilliantly.

By the way, since you mentioned vocals...you named the one mic I really wouldn't use for vocals (AKGc3000)...great for acoustic guitars and overhead toms...nightmare for vocals. I can say this b/c I have one...but the upside is that IF you buy that for a vocal mic, you'll get TONS of experience using plugins to try to fix it, lol.

Good luck.
 
Pablock, I second Chris's advice. There are tons of good cheap condensers out there, and the C3000B is way toward the bottom of the list. Consider AKG C2000B, a much better vocal mic. Also consider MXL V67G, Oktava Mk319, Studio Projects C-1.-Richie
 
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I mean pre editing in the sense that the signal is "edited" by the use of any kind of equipment prior to being fed into the computers input.


You guys serious about the ak3000? I heard alot of good things about that mic from people. The guy I was going to pick it up from has also a Rhode NT mic hows that for vocals?
 
Yup, no substitute for a good mic and a good preamp. I'd recommend a tube preamp. It really helps liven up the sound of digital, but that's subjective I suppose.
 
If the term pre-editing was intended to mean "editing before" recording. It's not a contradiction within itself, jsut not a good idea. Or it could be used in the sense of "before editing"....like the pre-editing stage is the tracking stage...I don't know....I just like trying to figure out what people are trying to say when they word them wrong.....

I know....this post was mainly irrelevant....but a little nothing never hurt anyone.

I guess so that there is some content to this post....you could try using the SM 57 for vocals....but you'll probably find out why you want a condenser and pre....(also....most condensers require a pre for phantom power
 
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