Compression in the Chain

[VSpaceBoy]

Hey all,
I havnt needed to post very much because of all the info I can search up from you folks. Lotta brains in here. I do need a little help with something though.

From what I have read I've gathered that I should record vocals straight from the preamp. Then out, through an outboard compressor, then back to the pc. Only problem is I don't have enough connectors on my audiophile 2496 to do this practically.

I tried just recoding into the pc and using several different software compressors <which would be my first choice>. But to get what I need by way of compression is squashes the sound. The only outboard I would have is my GNX2 for my guitar. I was thinking maybe I could strip down all the modeling and such and just steal the compression out of it.

The problems I potentially see are this.

1 - Is the GNX2 ok for vocals, I'm thinking that effects are effects and yes it is for guitar but I'm thinking thats mostly the marketing for the presets.
2 - the GNX2 has a digital out. Does that mean I could leave the pre amp connected to the line in on the card for recording, then a line out to the GNX2, then the digital back into the card?
3 - Is it possible to record the compression to the track so I don't have to leave the GNX2 running all the time like regular outboard gear?

Seems to me that the best<easiest> choice would be software compression. I tried out the Sonic one, Timeworks, and the VSi one in Cubase. Unless I'm using them wrong I think they all kill the tone.

Thanks in advance!!

Space

 

[TexRoadkill]

I can't imagine the GX2 would sound very good on vocals unless you are going for a special effect. Stick to the plugins until you get a real compressor like the RNC or better.

 

[VSpaceBoy]

Thanks Tex,

After what I've read and your statement. I just ordered the RNC. Thanks for the tip. Once I get it, I'll still need some help. Could you read back and help me understand the best way to get it in the chain.

Thanks!!

Ron

 

[stackatrack]

Compressors

Today most recordings get compressed to death so here's a possible path to get your stuff sounding better.
1. record your most important items (vocals, bass, drums, aco piano) with
very little limiting, compression or EQ. If you're using the right mic and mic
pre...you shouldn't need any of this stuff.
2. Go ahead and finish off your recording work
3. Now put up a mix and see what sounds need the individual compression
most...and do it (hardware or software).
4. If you have a limiter-compressor (like a Fairchild 660) on all your tracks
you're gonna squash everything . This works for a lot of major stuff like
Chili Peppers, Johnny Cash, Sheryl Crowe.
5. Leveling out the volume graph on your vocals (if you're using a computer
based program like pro tools, cakewalk, sonar, cubase, etc.) so that the
overall level changes are not too extreme...then add your
limiter-compressor. You're not asking too much amplitute wise and the
pumping artifact will reduce and probably sound much better.
6. Don't over do your compression settings. Leave a little for your mastering
engineer. they usually have much better overall compressors available to
make your stuff jump out...And this does apply to people using TC and all
other maximizers!

 

[VSpaceBoy]

Thanks for the help.

I've had some level of success using your guidelines. The sound has significantly improved, but I still need some practice to level out vocals more. I guess I need to learn better techniques with singing into the mic. Everything else is gtg.

Thanks again for all the help!!