Cold/Heat/Humidity effect on guitar?

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Does anyone know the effect (good/bad or other wise) extreem cold, heat or humidity has on a guitar and guitar amp?

I just got a practice space in a storage place and it does not have any heat or air conditioning. I am wondering how leaving my guitar, amp and other equipment in the room will affect the equipment?

Anyone know?

Thank you.
 
If it's uncomfortable for you, it's uncomfortable for your guitar. High humidity is a killer, and too dry can be too, wood is hygroscopic, that is, it absorbs moisture. When this happens, the wood swells and crushes cell walls, then cracks when it dries. If your instruments are cased with a good silicone gel pack inside, this is minimized but not entirely eliminated, so I would suggest bringing your gear home when you are finished working if there is any problem with humidity.

Hope this is helpful.
 
I own an acoustic guitar and accidentally left it in it's case in the back of my car on a hot day (30+).

Next time I released the string tension (changing strings) then bridge and nut fell off the guitar. Apparently they use a glue on those parts that releases with heat (so they can just use a heatgun when making repairs etc).

So yeah if it's really bad I'd try and bring my stuff home. With that said though if you leave it in it's case with a silica gel pack under a heap of blankets or something it should be fine.
 
Dry air is just as terrible, hard on the wood (can I say that here or should I go to the cave?), It can throw off the neck as well. I have two different nuts for my Taylor (can I say that here?), one for winter and one for the other seasons
 
Search this forum for humidity. Fact is - according to guys who know about this stuff - that too dry will wreak shit on your guitar.
 
Would you bring your amp home each night as well or just the guitar? Bringing my amp home each nght would suck!!! I can see the guitar.
 
For guitars, the two most destructive forces are lack of humidity and high heat. If your guitar gets too dry, the wood shrinks, which can cause all kinds of issues. The biggest one on an electric will be a shrinking fingerboard. The frets, being metal, do NOT shrink, so they stick out the sides of the fingerboard, and it can get to feel a bit like you're playing a bread knife. Not pleasant at all. On acoustics, the issues are much worse, because you the wood of the body starts to shrink, which can cause (at the mild end of the spectrum) the action to go down and cause buzzing, to (at the more extreme end) the top back or sides cracking, which frequently ends up knocking the braces loose inside the guitar. All of this can be repaired, but it is expensive, and some of these things never go away cosmetically, so why would you want to risk it. Best to just avoid the problem.

Heat causes other issues. The biggest one is that most of the glues used in building guitars will soften in high heat. This can cause a myriad of problems, from (again, at the mild end) the bridge popping loose (easily repaired most of the time by regluing the bridge, but that STILL cost $125-150 in my shop), to the (set) neck creeping or even causing the fingerboard sliding a bit (both of which are MUCH more difficult to repair). Also, if the headstock on your guitar has ever broken, you are looking at the break coming loose, and once it's been repaired once, the re-repair becomes MUCH more expensive and difficult. (And heat related issues will never be covered under your warranty, even if you don't tell the repair person, because the symptoms of heat related creep are VERY distinctive - the glue goes all stringing).

High humidity isn't really an issue until you get into the extreme end of the spectrum, at which point mold and mildew become very real issues. Up to 70-75% is not a big deal (for short periods of time), however, but still, why not avoid it if you can, right? Also, in high humidity acoustic guitars really start to sound like shit, as they tops get much heavier and they just sound kind of dead.

Cold related damage is usually primarily cosmetic in nature. As the guitar gets cold, the wood (and the lacquer) shrink. If you warm the guitar up to quickly, the lacquer expands at a slower rate than the wood, and you can get a series of very fine cracks in the finish, called weather checking or crazing. It is only a cosmetic issue, but it is difficult and expensive to repair, so if you care at all about how your guitar looks (and most people do), then do your best to avoid it. If your guitar DOES get too cold

As far as a general rule of thumb, if you wouldn't leave your dog or your baby in a place, don't leave your guitar.

Oh, and amps are more robust in many ways, but high humidity can corrode connections, and a lot of cold can cause tubes to crack when the amp is next turned on. The amps cabinet is, of course, glued together, so heat related glue issues exist there as well. the only low humidity issue I can think of is that it may cause the amps coverings to crack, but I'm no expert on amps, so I am probably missing a bunch of issues of concern.


Light

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M.K. Gandhi
 
Light said:
As far as a general rule of thumb, if you wouldn't leave your dog or your baby in a place, don't leave your guitar.

Great, then its OK that I leave my guitar chained to a stake in the backyard, right? :D

One contribution from me, an avid cigar smoker. If its one thing that a cigar smoker knows its relative humidity and how to control it. I've heard Light suggest many times to leave your guitar in its case with a specially-designed humidifier if you live in low-humidity conditions. Great idea. Also, if you live in very high humidity areas, you can also use Proplyne Glycol 50/50 solution or Climax Beads (not the sex toy...the humidity control beads) in a humidifier to bring the humidity down to 65 or 70%.
 
To quote from a reliable resourse:

"The ideal humidity level for a guitar varies from one instrument to another, depending on the humidity conditions in the factory or workshop where it was assembled. The humidity during assembly establishes the basic dimensions of the instrument. This dimensional configuration is permanently locked into the total structure when the guitar is assembled. Thereafter, when humidity varies, the individual components will shrink or expand unevenly, while the dimensions of the total structure tend to remain proportionately constant."

I have quite a few guitars, mandolins, and a couple of banjos.

To play it safe I attempt to control the humidity here to be within 45-55 percent. I've seen it climb as high as 70% at times, and as Light says, as long as it's for a short duration, you should be safe from any ill effects.

I had a major buzz eminating from my Yarii last year because the humidity level had risen too high for too long a period of time. It was the one and only guitar that was affected by the high humidity, therefore I do think that where and under what conditions your guitar was manufactured and assembled plays an important role.
 
A good thing to remember about temperature is, if your guitar (or amp) gets too cold or hot, slowly bring it back to room temp. Rapid temp changes can cause lots of problems, while most are cosmetic sometimes warping can occur. Moisture condensation on the electrical parts can also cause damage to them with sudden temp changes. Dust and moisture are mortal enemies of all electronics, this is a balancing act when it comes to amps, the speakers need a little humidity to retain their flexability. Very cold speakers can crack so it is a good idea to always allow them to warm up to a comfortable temp before you crank up the volume and rock out.
 
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